In A Library, Where Should The Bible Be Located?

It's not that I (all atheists?) have no sense of humor, it's that your joke wasn't funny.

 

Well, "I" havnt come across a 'devout atheist' on this forum with a sense of humor yet! Of course most atheists are Liberal in their political ideology, and the 'mind set of Liberalism' is based on secular humanism (it's all about man), and it has been 'well established' in the political forum of PF, over-and-over, that "Liberals dont have a sense of humor."

And so, dreadpiratejaymo, if you happen to be 'cursed' with one, dont let the Liberals know about it!

Oh, BTW, found the area of the Library for books on Atheism---it's "File 13"

 

Your logic seems to be propped up like a house of cards, ready to collapse with the first breeze that comes through.

You sound as though you are a Distant Prospect of Eton College.

Do you find that it is a folly to be wise?

 

Well, I'm glad you asked 'me' something of which you are not qualified to answer.

Suggest you start a poll in the PF Opinion section and see how many 'debaters' agree with my statements, particularly Libs NOT having a sense of humor...I'm sure some will bring up the exception, like a Jon Stuart, and one cant count Bill Maher cause he's just plain 'mean; and the Garofalos', et al are the norm. Bitter ppl who want the rest of the world to be 'just like them.'...

You seem like a 'fish out of water, in some respects...or is it you just smell like one?!

 

So atheists say, and have been saying for at least a century now. We're still here.

Your scientific test that proves there is no God? It right next to the list of your supposedly superior standards.

 

It is so ironic that someone who subscribes to a religion is complaining that atheists want everyone to be just like them.

Meaning people who look at facts and evidence before forming an opinion?

I suppose I would like people to do that, but I know religion will stand in the way of facts and evidence for many years to come.

 

Yup, broken logic and all. It doesn't matter how many times the card house falls, there will always be someone else to prop it up again.

Scientific test of what? You can't test something that doesn't exist.

When did I mention proof of anything? I'm still looking for testable evidence that all religions repeatedly fail to produce.

I can't critique your evidence if you will not present any that can be tested.

Wow. At this point in this discussion, my mouth is so full of other peoples words, I barely have room for my own!

 

ROFL!!!

#1 - you atheists all sound alike. You Christians are irrational and are not swayed by logic in the slightest (neither are atheists)! We hate that you prosetlyze! (But we want to have concerts at Fort Bragg - worship us!) , etc.

#2 - What facts and evidence drive your opinion that there is no God? No evidence? A totalitarian exclusion of all evidence, even though there are scientifically documented miracles, etc? Even though most logical people will acknoweldge that the evidence is inconclusive in an objective sense? Not atheists though, they have no faith .... and no conclusive evidence - which is kind of a logic bomb ain't it?

#3 - Its a sure sign that atheists are losing when a thread is about where to assign a book, and they return to the propgandistic drum beat of a thorough beaten dead horse of evidence.

Evidence? Atheists do not know the meaning of teh word, and certainly, like the Bible, don't seem to comprehend it.

 

How exactly is it an illogical statement to point out that atheists have been making the exact same declaration about the inevitability of 'logic' defeatingour faith?

THis stands is sharp contrast to the wide and GROWING body of literature that harmoninzes science and religion.

Oh, I think the failure of atheist predictions to return the predicted results equates far more to your beliefs being a house of card then mine. After all, I can at least define mine - you can't.

Yeah, you can. You can test to confirm whether or not something is happening.

Indeed, You atheists support evolution by pointing to changes in DNA, fossil transition creatures, etc. as proof that evolution is valid. The abscence of these things indicates that the predicting hypotheisis is wrong.

Sorrta like you dire predictions that religion is about to collapse - even as religion exercises growing influence in the world (have you missed the rise fo Islam?)

How is it that a rational person can subscribe to a set of beliefs whose stated predictions are ALWAYS wrong, and still think it is valid?

Because, just like I said, atheism is, despite all the whining, not about evidence. Its about emotion.

Because those are the rules of logic. If you make a claim, you must support it.

If you claim there is no God, and cannot explain why in a convincing manner? You, logically, lose.

If you don;t like that? Fine. But those are the rules of logic. So if you find them inconvient, OK, stop pretending that you are logical then.

I have doen so repeatedly.

Pulling an ostrich, "If I fail to acknoweldge any evidence there is indeed no evidence," is the oppposite of logic. It is modern atheism though.

Your house cards is collapsing, and that is why you are getting emotional.

Are you saying you want to kiss me? Sorry brother, I don't do that.

 

That's like if I asked you to prove there is no orange dragon in my closet. It's an absurd request. Logically, it's much more likely that God does not exist. His non-presence in any quantifiable (is that a word) terms is evidence in itself.

 

I'd open your closet. (Sorry, can't help this one, but what else are you hiding in your closet? )

Please notice the logical rule called an arguement from absurdity.

It isn't hard at all.

Notice who is aware of this logical rule and who is not? Not those who claim to be vulcans mind you.

 

I would agree that 'religious ppl' (those who are caught up in dead religion and the dogma of men) often are w/o joy and are 'bitter.'

But the one who follows the words of Christ and the Spirit of God has 'joy:'

ex.
John 15:11 "These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full.

And, facts & evidence are fine, but one must look at all in respect to one another--as in understanding the total of science, history, and the realm of the spirit. Having a science degree, and being an 'info junky' on knowledge in general, I find harmony with the scriptures when they are placed within context as in regards to the spirit behind them. All scripture is not literal, but symbolic in many respects. To understand the differences, one must seek & follow the spirit of the msg within them..

 

I'd put it in the non-fiction section just to watch the Atheists heads explode.

 

What's absurd my request relative to yours? You're asking the same thing I am. You're asking me to prove a negative and so am I.

Either provide some evidence for God's existence or ****. This is not how logic works. At all.

 

It should be under non-fiction. The same way that books detailing scientific theories that cant be proven (Alternate realities, string theory, ect..) are under non-fiction.

 

You can prove a negative. Sorry atheists.

http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articlepdf/proveanegative.pdf

Prediction? Basis of arguement? Failure.

We predict that you can prove a negative, logicians agree with us, and we have proof to back it up.

What does that mean atheists? Is it your beliefs that are faulty or ours?

Being too lazy to look is not logic - its just laziness. And you already have a conclusion that YOU cannot support. Your faith is dead, only your emotions fail to let you acnowledge what is obvious to most of the rest of the world.

 

So then prove I don't have an orange dragon in my closet. Should be easy enough I figure.

 

Open your closet.

Done.

Really, is this hard? Go ahead and add your silly additional criteria and prove that you are indeed using an arguement from absurdity.

Read the article it explains it. We look at what we can reasonably expect to test, and give it a good hard look. Science finds it indeterminate. We have faith. No worries.

You don;t (or so you claim), but you have indeterminate evidence to support your conclusion of exactness - the 'rational' evidence points to there being no God.

Only it doesn't does it?

So we are talking about orange dragons? As proof of atheism? Atheism is thus, logically, absurd. You support it with orange dragons. 'nuf said.

 

Under H, for Holy Bible, in the 'Religion' section.

 

I'm asking you to prove I don't have one. I know I do, I'm asking you to disprove its existence.

 

Whose fault it that you are :

a. too lazy to open your closet door?

b. utterly unable logically to concieve of a way to validate what is clearly not true?

c. using a known logic from absurdity.

Atheism is correct because there is an orange dragon in (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)rs closet, and no matter what, you'll be unable to convince him of that.

Yep, that is atheism. We have a God that gives us wisdom. They have orange dragons hiding in closets. There is 'logic' for you.

How about an atheist with a smidge of logic tell bro here to stop?

 

I'm telling you to disprove it I guess you can't. Such is the absurdity with claims that "you must disprove God right now lol"

 

And dont forget to tell him about the 'threatening Christian horde' hiding under his bed...and probably around every corner, too!

 

And I am telling you that it is ALREADY disproven, an arguement from absurdity, and sheer obstinance is the only thing that allows you to continue making such an absurd claim.

Ergo, we can logically conclude that the only way to be an atheist is through sheer and utter obstinancy in the face of reality. (Is there some reason that not a single atheist, so worried about th emisrepresentation of their faith, will not step in and explain how this works to our misguided friend here?)

Atheism is therefore, exactly like creationism in terms of logic.

Enjoy your faith - and the even sillier result that you think your faith is in any way shape or form 'logical'.

 

Well, they will porbbaly cancel each other out then. Every night he Christian hoards come out from under his bed and attack the giant orange dragon just before it strikes and kills him! Every night!

Only it always seems to happen when he is asleep .... odd that.

Besides, the hoard around teh corner are the Muslims ....