In his speech last night Obama said that ISIS is not muslim

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  1. dixon76710

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    And youll find out his motives had absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. And ISIS wants to expand the Islamic Caliphate. What did McVeigh want to do tha ISIS also wants to do?
     
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    kill everybody That is not pure Aryan
    Read the Turner diaries
     
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    Sorry but you are mistaken. ISIS has no such goal.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe the point was that the Christian bank robber is seen as been less evil than the Muslim bank robber.
     
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    Then what is their goal when they kill Christians if they don't convert?
     
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    Christians don't commit those sins in the name of their religion. I doubt anyone has ever yelled "Praise The Lord" as he raped a woman.
     
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    We aren't speaking of simple robbery, we are talking about slavery, rape, crucifixion, mutilation, terror and other brutal acts done in the name of Allah to tens of thousands of innocent people.

    Cheers
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    And someone proclaiming "Allah Akbar" frequently follows the dismembering by bomb of a dozen civilians.
     
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    Motivation for others to convert.
     
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    He was saying that they do not represent Islam, and they do not. Most Muslim countries are actually preparing to go to war with them.
     
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    No, hes not seen as Christian when his actions are in contradiction of the Christian doctrine. He might be an Irish Christian bank robber, but his robbing the bank has nothing to do with his Irish or Christian identity. On the other hand when ISIS fights to establish and expand the Islamic Caliphate, the Islamic caliphate dictated by Islamic doctrine, the Islamic Caliphate that existed from 632 until the 1920s and that has been absent ever since, their actions are in accordance with Islamic doctrine. True, a strict, literal interpretation of that doctrine. And not all muslims follow a strict, literal interpretation of the same doctrine, but certainly the doctrine is Islamic and those who apply it strictly, are accurately identified as "muslim".
     
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    The complaint against Obama appears to be that he didn't attack Islam, in his speech about how we will be supporting our Islamic allies in Iraq, and attempt to recruit nations of Muslims to battle ISIS, to prevent the mass murder of Muslims and others by ISIS.

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    So when ISIS says that they represent true Islam- and the rest of the Muslim world says that they don't- you believe ISIS?
     
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    Nobody ever said "Oh God!" during sex?
     
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    If in your mind sex means rape, you have issues
     
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    I won't dispute that.

    Actually I will dispute it. The Islamic cheer usually precedes the bomb blast which kills innocent civilians.
     
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    The Nazis claimed to be Christians. They proudly wore emblems stating Got Mitt Us (God is with us) while carrying out their atrocities.

    When talking about the Nazis should we call them Christian extremists?

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    The Nazis claimed to be Christians. They proudly wore emblems stating Got Mitt Us (God is with us) while carrying out their atrocities.

    When talking about the Nazis should we call them Christian extremists?
     
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    Some satanically motivated people do claim that. People like you buy into that too. Stalin, I think it was, called them "useful idiots".
     
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    I still can't figure out why so many people bend over backwards to apologize and support a religion which proudly tells you how much they despise you. Does it make you feel like you are being a better Christian? Oh wait......
     
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    It says volumes
     
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    Why is Obama still calling fort hood shootings just work place violence after the shooter said he was doing it for Ali? Why is he afraid to say any moslim is a terrorist? Unless he kills them himself.
     
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    So then you agree that the Nazis weren't really Christians and didn't represent Christians?

    The same applies to ISIS and Islam.
     
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    Bullstuff. Does their holy book say to wipe out anyone that isn't Islam?
     
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    Come on. . .do you have some difficulty in comprehension?

    ISIS is no more "Muslim," than Westboro Church is "Christian"

    They are both extremists who rely on a vague (and very erroneous) definition of what each religion represents.
     
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    You have no idea of what you're talking about. It is not "satanically motivated people" who claimed that Hitler was Christian, but HITLER himself, and he managed to fool quite a few Christians (including high hierarchy in the Catholic Church) with this, this is why many Catholic bishops supported him to BEGIN with. . . until they realized he was the evil side of Christianity.

    ISIS and extreme Muslims are the same! Many Muslim people are ashamed of what extremists like ISIS has done to their religion. . .Just as I am ashamed of what the Westboro Church does with Christianity, and how I am ashamed of how the Spanish Inquisition USED their Christianity to barbarically killed people.
     
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    A belief in Jesus Christ does not inspire people to commit evil acts.
     

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