Interesting Poll On Vaccine Booster Shots

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Why wasn't WHAT done a long time ago?

    I stated one very sound reason for not starting testing on young children before verifying safety and efficacy in adults.
     
  2. independentthinker

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    Oh yeah, I forgot you admitted that the vaccines may not be safe for young children. But, at least we know they are safe for adults, despite 6,000 peole dying in the US alone and thousands and thousands having serious adverse medical events due to the vaccines. It's also very possible that the powers that be know that the vaccines are not safe for young children but are afraid to release that information because it might discourage adults from being vaccinated. Can't have that. Adults only need this information on a need to know basis. If they don't need to know it will be easier to intimidate and bully them into getting vaccinated.
     
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  3. WillReadmore

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    The reason we have testing is exactly that - there may be safety issues we don't know about, so testing is done.

    Is that some sort of NEWS???

    All information the CDC has is PUBLIC.

    You FAIL to cite your 6,000 number of deaths. That number appears to be the number of deaths after being vaccinated that were reported in the VAERS database.

    BUT, being reported to the VAERS database does NOT MEAN THEY DIED OF THE VACCINE.

    If you are interested in the truth, you need to do one of two things:
    - cite a reputable source for your 6,000 number.
    - STOP claiming that VAERS entries are verified events, because they are NOT.
     
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    The CDC is lying to us because they can't tell us why those 6,000 people died. Why is that? Over 6200 deaths and the CDC can't figure out why even one of them died? Not one? They are covering up the truth because it gets in their way of intimidating and bullying people to get shots. Yes, even those 6200 are just a small drop in the bucket compared to all of the vaccines given but the left can't come right out and say that 6200 died because of the vaccine because that wouldn't be a good message. So, they lie and claim it's just a very small percentage and "we don't really know why 6200 people died, even though we are medical experts, we have no clue".
     
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    How many children under 12 have died from Covid? Instead of crying about Trump supporters perhaps you should show the evidence that shows that children under 12 should be vaccinated. Oh, and a link showing that 250,000 children under 12 are hospitalised due to Covid and not some other condition?
     
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    Wow, you're all over the place! You state that the vaccine has caused thousands of deaths and thousands of thousands of serious side effects, nether of which are true, yet you say that children under 12 should all be vaccinated. You are a fake that pretended to care about children when all you cared about was the unvaccinated trump supporters being blamed for spreading the virus
     
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    Well, the fact is that now we are under a nationwide vaccine mandate. Biden just announced that all employers with over 100 employees must require all employees to be vaccinated.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/534418-biden-mandate-workers-covid-vaccines/

    So far, RT is the only site I've seen covering this that isn't behind a paywall. It'll be all over the news soon enough.
     
  8. independentthinker

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    Even your own party thinks young children should be vaccinated as soon as it is approved.
     
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    Everyone is spreading the virus, including the vaccinated. The CDC has listed deaths and severe adverse reactions. Why do you deny facts?
     
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    As expected no evidence to back up your fake concern about children
     
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    ^ fake concern about the health of children ^
     
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    These posts crack me up boy have the left changed their talking points from when they were questioning the vaccine Trump was touting. We heard there was no vaccine that could be properly made and tested in a year, then it was made to fast and now this. BTW I've been fully vaccinated since Feb.
     
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    The highest per capita are african americans, I seriously doubt they're all Trump Supporters. I'll give you lefties a little advice, drop the Trump supporter nonsense, Trump helped fast track the vaccination and pushed it hard. You constantly trying to divided the country on this issue is not helping or maybe you don't really give a crap about this and are playing politics?
     
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    There were two central reasons to object to the decision making process for which Trump was claiming credit.

    First of all, that WAS incredibly fast testing! And, for MANY months, even today, right wingers as well as many on the left point to the danger inherent in being injected by a substance that has not gone through full testing. This has been one of the only valid arguments made by those who have slowed vaccination progress in America.

    Suggesting that was a left wing concern is total BS. It was an everybody concern. And, Trump's personal choices on COVID made that concern even harder to overcome.

    Secondly, Trump worked to politicize the decision INSTEAD of supporting the science. He took NUMEROUS measures to undermine science, even resorting to publishing false claims under the banner of the CDC without even notifying the CDC!!! He also personally worked to ensure that the large pharma companies retained full patent rights, making distribution of the vaccines especially difficult.

    These added significant doubt in the motivation for these vaccines. Was it political? Was it for big pharma gain? Were the vaccines actually safe? Should Trump be accepted on what he said about vaccines, but ignore what he said about hydroxychloroquine and his statements that CDC was wrong about masks and social distancing?

    These are central questions, and Trump has assured that the public remains in doubt even though the science is clear.

    The valid methods of protection of the US from pandemic CAN NOT BE HANDLED like Trump handled COVID.

    What he did was a GIGANTIC detriment to our defense and cost American lives.
     
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    So, you're saying that the left don't want to vaccinate children?
     
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    You have NO concern about children under 12.
     
  17. WillReadmore

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    You need to move toward actual legitimate discussion that involves reading the posts to which you respond.
     
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    Are you saying that you don't want to vaccinate children?
     
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    The first shot made my pretty sick, 101 fever. thats as high my fever ever got when I had covid. Luckily it only lasted a little over a day. I'm not looking forward to shot #2 and have no intention of getting a booster later.
     
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    LOL not only are you fake but you're trolling your own thread!
     
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    Do you want to vaccinate children under 12 or not? It's not a hard question.
     
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    Why do you want to vaccinate children under 12 with a vaccine that you say has killed 6000 adults and caused thousands and thousands of adults to be hospitalised? It's not a hard question especially to a fake troll
     
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    Why are you fine with vaccinated people spreading the virus to kids younger than 12? It's not a hard question.
     
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    Probably because a lot of them had reactions to varying degrees to the second shot and aren't willing to find out if the third one is going to be worse than the second.
     
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    I have several friends who say there is no way they will be taking any subsequent booster shots.
     
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