Interesting Study on Fox Viewers

Some more literary bloviation if you will!

 

I watch Fox for the foxes. It's like Page 3 on television. I recognize them as lying through their teeth nearly constantly

 

But I bet you think you're chosen media source is just as pure as the driven snow...

 

FatBack said: ↑
"Says" ..... This spelling and grammar thing ain't no game bro!

Yes, that's right, "smart guy"-- two chances, and you still got it wrong. And, it is clear, the reason that you got it wrong, is your own, English ineptitude. Now I'll give you some factual information:
The word "illiterate," in that sentence, does not refer strictly to you. If that were the case, it would make no sense to include the word, "all." Granted, from your complaints, this was perhaps just too long of a sentence, for you to follow, straight through, from beginning to end; but to anyone who is not illiterate, or a mental midget, my sentence is referring to "the illiterate," as a class. Do you understand that concept?

It is like referring to, "the educated." It is a plural noun.

The form of the verb, "to say," that agrees with a plural subject, is "say," not "says."

IOW, you were unable to correctly translate this simple sentence: "Say all the illiterate."

If it is not overly apparent to you-- and from all past signs, I can only assume that it is not-- you can save the trouble of giving me any of your future advice, on "communicating;" I don't pay much mind to advice from those, who are demonstrably incompetent, during the dispensing of their wisdom.


(But the two icons you included-- the laughing moron, and the nose- picker-- show us all, your maturity level; so you can save me the lectures on my being immature, in the future, as well).

 

Pearls, before swine.

 

I'm not really interested in urination contests so we got something to say that's relevant say it if not you can have the last word.

 

I'm disappointed in you.... I was expecting about eight more paragraphs...

 

Most of them yes. How many of them are convinced Trump won in 2020?

 

Yes, interesting article. It demonstrates, with data, the power that propaganda has over people. The power of Fox News is that it elicits an emotional response in its viewers, by constantly reinforcing their grievances, which makes them turn Fox on again the next night. It's like an addiction.

Now, here is where I disagree with the article:

"The left, by contrast, tends to stigmatize any engagement with right-wing media, as if fearing contamination through association. If it were true that this media is consumed exclusively by people who are totally impervious to dissonant information, boycotting the RWM might be a defensible strategy. But Broockman and Kalla’s research indicates that information flows at the margin really do matter. Any opportunity to present new facts to people, and new arguments, is valuable."

No, the left doesn't fear contamination by association. The Dem politicians know that they have nothing to gain by giving "interviews" on Fox. Even though the Fox viewers may benefit from hearing more diverse opinions, the problem is that the "interviews" on Fox are designed in a way to make the politicians from the other side look like idiots. Therefore, Dem politicians only lose, but cannot gain by going on Fox.

Hannity and Colmes used this tactic brilliantly. Colmes was the token liberal idiot, who supposedly presented the "fair and balanced" alternate viewpoint, but who somehow always was wrong.

In any case, it is my conviction that the current polarization we are seeing in the country is 100% the fault of Fox. They have made it a well-executed business model to spread propaganda that leads to the emotional response of its viewers to hate the other half of the country. And that hate seems to be self-reinforcing, because they come back to Fox for more of the hate every night. And, no, the Fox viewers are not bad or unreasonable people, as this study shows. They are just, unwittingly, being taken advantage of by Fox, amplifying their grievances and telling them everything in life is not theirs, but someone else's fault, insert the hated politicians from the left, and the Dem voters who vote them into office.

 

Too bad, you didn't follow your own advice, about making comments relevant, during your long chain of attempted insults, that ends here.

 

That's not what it means at all. FOX News is one TV station. Demographically, younger folks aren't watching TV news like the older generations do. Older generations tend to be Republican more than Democrat.

This is confirmation bias.

 

That's part and parcel for partisan media, and is usually wrong. But it feels good to have a singular point of blame, and it's also much much easier to digest than having to sit down and actually think about all the factors that play into things. "Biden did it" or "Trump did it" takes far less time and intellectual investment than understanding all the variables. And repeated non-stop, it works as a campaign tool as well.

We can blame the media and we can blame the politicians, but like most things political the root cause of the problem is us, the people. The media and the politicians follow us, not the other way around. They give us what a majority of us have told them with our words and our actions that we want. A political soap opera slash civil war with clear cut one-dimensional bad guys and simplistic plotlines so as not to require much mental investment.

How do they know that's what we want? We told them with our social media posts, our media habits, how we treat others, and our votes. The politicians and the media are us, pointed back at us.

 

Very interesting but when you challenge the more right wing members here they all deny watching Fox

 

In other words, Fox asks tough questions as opposed to the left leaning networks. If their message appeals to conservatives, they should have nothing to fear from Fox.

 

Interesting? No. Other than demonstrating that a good percentage of people are easily manipulated into seeing things differently, and that most of the news media has abandoned the basic ethics of journalism and become political propaganda tools. Those who want to control the minds of others- are never, never honorable people.

CNN was once my go-to news source, I watched Rachel Maddow regularly. Over time- I saw this shift in fundamental ethical values taking place. Like erosion; not all at once, but progressively destroying what was, and leaving a void lacking logic or reason. Like many situations- I didn't leave them; they left me. CNN morphed into something unacceptable- orchestrated liars pushing a political agenda serving specific politics, instead of honestly informing their viewers. That violated the trust that is the critical ingredient of true journalism. It demonstrated that they had no respect for their own audience- or themselves.

All commentary news will be influenced to some extent by personal perceptions of those who provide them, and the personal perceptions of those who hear or watch them. It is the degree of maturity, of independence and integrity that will keep both the newscaster and the listener realistic. I don't expect perfection- but I do expect that to be the constant objective of journalism. When that is abandoned for political radicals and extremism- when the objective is to lead the viewer to a specific conclusion and belief instead of informing them of truth and facts so that they may form their own opinions- It's no longer news or journalism, it's pure propaganda. Propaganda works , and works better on those lacking a firm grip on their own identity and values. It progressively destroys the independence values of the individuals who listen to it. It promotes high emotion, hate, discrimination under the guise of self-righteousness- and terrible judgment. That over-rides reason and logic- and people become the equivalent of sheep if they don't recognize what is being done.

There are reasons why this is not being rejected across the board by both citizens and news corporations. That is loss of values and personal identity by generation; the basic concepts of being responsible for yourself, and holding yourself accountable for who you are and what you do. It's like personal maturity; the progressive transition in thinking that happens when a person actually becomes a man or woman never completes,and the physical age has little to do with it, leaving a mature body- with a more childish, emotion driven mind. That responsibility and transition was first rejected by the hippie movements. While most found it impractical over the long run, some of that mentality was bred into children born into it, and it perpetuated. It requires less of yourself- and that is always easier than requiring more, so it tends to persist, especially when life is too easy. Generations- now 3, more or less- have many who are conditioned to blame their quality of life on others, on what the world owes them, and tending to ignore the basic values that provide a person with power over their own destiny. IF you don't have the ability to control that destiny, and you think others do and are- then you conclude that to fix your personal world, you must change the world around you; change everybody else..... make them miserable so you might be happy. That's how selfish this mindset is. There is enough of that present in today's population to allow propaganda and delusions of all kinds to thrive, and those things only benefit the unscrupulous- who don't hesitate to make pawns and fools of such people. See it everyday, at every level of society.

The chaos we are living in is not the result of people regulating themselves to good values and being responsible- but the result of those who have no good values, and most importantly, have no ability to regulate themselves, to keep their priorities in order. There's only one ship here, and we are all on it. Those who would sink it because they are personally disgruntled and have no capacity to manage their own lives, who think they must screw up everybody else's life in order to force the world to make them happy.... will never be happy, and do only harm. Sadly, think remarkably like South Park character Eric Cartman.... and they watch CNN to keep fueling their belief that it is the world, not them, who has their head up their ass. Once you take that position, you have what amounts to tunnel vision. You can't see anything outside your self-imposed limits. It is however- your choice to be where you are. You need to figure out where that is, and why you are there. Hard to do when you embrace the propaganda.

 

If you are in a world that works- why would you trade that for one that sucks, and does not?
Hardly a trap to be there- it's an earned privilege; not a trap.

Unfortunate you feel under the power of the 1%, because they are the proof of what we are all capable of, what can be done by any of us.
If they didn't exist, your world would be much less livable than it is today.
Success is not an accident, and the path is not a secret- but you do have to dedicate yourself to the task. It's not coming to you; you must travel to it.

 

Oh no I don’t care beyond thinking how abusive such a situation is. Honestly? I think Fox News viewers trapped in this cycle of being forced to watch Fox News, are such useless children. Which is a reference to a great song by a guy named Kikuo.

 

I see Faux's popularity used as a defense for their programming all the time. But it does not speak to the subject at hand. It does not speak to the veracity of their reporting. It does not speak, specifically, about their #1 night time personality's fawning admiration for the bigoted autocrat, Viktor Orban. Who is responsible for 200 churches in Hungary being shut down because they did not align with him. A man who targets the LGBTQ community and immigrants for oppression. It does not speak to Chris Wallace leaving the station in large part because of Faux's promotion of the Big Lie.

 

In all seriousness, yes, FOX media shares in the blame when it comes to stoking and scaring their viewers - they have created and drawn a target group that simply was always vulnerable and projectionists, maybe it's a hyper fear gene? BUT, it's no longer in FOX's hands really, this radical RW (not principled conservativism IMO, but aggrieved victimology) now SIMPLY DEMANDS this type of coverage. When it's not fed to them, they demand it with threats of going elsewhere for their daily FIX.

The diet FOX News/Newsmax provides (now) leaves ALL journalism ethics behind unless defamation is pursued/expected in the legal system. They are leaning over the edge much like their audience. Symbiosis.

 

At best this proves that people can be brainwashed easily by news media, whether they be left or right, which is why Fox News came into existence in the first place. People were getting tired of being brainwashed by the MSM.

 

I doubt many of them watch Fox News. Most of them aren't 70 years old.

 

Flaw with your suggestion. How many of CNN's viewers also watch MSNBC? and/or any of the others that you mentioned? As such adding them together like you suggest would be counting people more than once. Which does not give an accurate number at all.

 

When Newsmax and OANN started broadcasting Faux changed their evening programming to compete with the crazy. Adding more opinion based shows while removing "straight news" shows......not that anything Faux does is straight. So Faux viewers are treated to a daily dose of stuff like this.........

 

FYI-- Rachel Maddow works for MSNBC, not CNN, your once, go- to, news source.

 

Well I think the comparisons are made, based on particular programs and time slots, so presumably, most people would only be watching one or the other. In fact, any who had the Nielson rating boxes, who were switching in between the two, would be diminishing the rating of each, in equal amount to however much they raised the other one.