Iran and 9/11

the only problem I have is that for some reason you appear to think that it's only limited to the Republicans.

 

Wrong again fred. You just don't understand logic do you? I admitted that I had not and was not claiming they had prior knowledge. Not the same thing is it?

How so fred? If their asset Mughniyah and numerous Iranian intelligence officials were involved in the logistics and harboring of those involved then they are involved aren't they?

And Mughinyah as I have shown was responsible for the deaths of more Americans than any other terrorist group prior to 9/11. He also accompanied 10 of the hi-jackers as did numerous Iranian intelligence officials and IRGC.

The Iranians knew that Sheik Osama was planning a major attack against the West and they helped him by linking the hi-jackers up with former Committee of Three leader and al-Qaeda/Iran go-between Amughinyah. All of of this is in the link I posted to an article about Amughinyah.

Okay, I'm not interested in talking to you anymore fred.

 

Disinfo Margot? Must we?

Mughniyah Margot. He accompanied the hi-jackers along with Iranian intelligence and IRGC. See the links.

 

Yup.

Post #1 "The Islamic Republic of Iran helped design the 9/11 plot;"

Post #147 "Where did I ever say or even suggest that Iran knew about 9/11 in advance?"

 

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC05.php?CID=2716



Who Was Imad Mughniyeh?

By Matthew Levitt and David Schenker
February 14, 2008

Yesterday's assassination of arch-terrorist Imad Mughniyeh was welcome news in Washington, Buenos Aires, Tel Aviv, and, albeit quietly, Beirut and Baghdad. For Hizballah and Damascus, however, the loss of Mughniyeh -- who was a brilliant military tactician, a key contact to Tehran, and a successful political leader -- is a severe blow to their ongoing activities and operations

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Doesn't one think that it is noteworthy that here we have the elimination of the World's "arch-terrorist" Imad
Mughniyeh, and yet the Islamist Countries where the overwhelming number of its citizens are brainwashed into believing that America is the GREAT SATAN ..... apparently ........ in those Islamist countries there isn't a peep about the approval of the elimination of the World's "arch terrorist" ?????

Nor, apparently, is there a peep out of the Emirates, or Saudi Arabia where the Saudi Royalty are willingly brainwashed by the much noted Islamist Wahhabis who blackmail the willing Saudi Royalty ?????

The Saudi Royalty, who finance anywhere from 80-90% of the Islamist Mosques in America, TOTALLY CONTROLLED by the Wahhabis who ardently preach that America is the GREAT SATAN.

Is this something that America should just simply ignore and not even comment about the American Muslims in their country ?????

 

America the Great Satan?

Whatever gave them that idea?

http://warisacrime.org/content/new-photos-released-iraq-atrocity-documents-and-video

 

It's really very simple and obvious:

Why would a country like IRAQ with approx ONE MILLION of it's own citizens TORTURED & MURDERED by the Baghdad Psycho Saddam not express gratitude to America for getting rid of this Baghdad Monster .... and not only not express gratitude...... but tolerate the so-called "insurgents" from its Islamist neighbors, especially IRAN ?

Answer: IRAN is totally controlled by the Shiite Imams who are pathologically fearful of having America establish a SECULAR democracy in the Mid East thus diminishing the almost, or TOTAL POWER of the Islamist Imams in the Mid East. So these IMAMS (whether Shiite or Sunni) in IRAQ have threatened the ignorant brainwashed masses of Muslims with ETERNAL (*)(*)(*)(*)ATION (not being able to pork 72 virgins and not getting bonged outs their skulls ...and a helluva lot worse) ....plus, paying Mafia-type thugs to intimidate anyone not following their script with torture & death.

That is why even the Sunni Wahhabis, who hate the Iranian Shiites, hate the Americans MORE ....and, also , brainwash their followers about America being the GREAT SATAN.

I suppose , by being an ISLAMIST of the Iranian Mullah type, or a supporter of them......you will NEVER......EVER.....accept this IRREFUTABLE REALITY.

 

The mosque buildings were gifts from King Fahd to existing Muslim congregations all over the US and elsewhere in the world.

Trust me.. you would never be able to tell a Saudi Wahabbi.. They are all very polite.. and you don't know any of the Sudeiri Six.

 

You seem to be a continuous & repetitive supporter and/or apologist for the Islamists......as such you'd be the last one I would trust on this issue.

Plus, there is ample evidence from various sources (which I can't document because they were so numerous) that the Sunni Wahhabis are THE most fanatical of all the Islamist Imams ......more so than even the Shiite Iranian Mullahs who instigated the IRAQI QUAGMIRE and started the UNDECLARED WAR against America.....striking the FIRST BLOW.

 

You still don't understand fred. Why would the Iranians have to know the date and specifics of the attack in order to be involved in the planning? Isn't logistics part of the planning? Don't you know how sophisticated terrorist operations and military operations work? Were the people involved in planning the assassination of bin Laden not involved in the planning because they didn't know who the target was? As I said, I don't wish to talk to you anymore fred.

 

In 2003 Iraq was a secular country which had never seen a suicide bombing in it's entire history. Now it is a hot bed of sectarian violence with bombings every day, people are afraid to send their children to school, afraid to go out to the market.

In 2003 Iraqis had electricity, a health care system,. Now there are only half the number of hospitals and clinics they had in 2003 and hardly any doctors. Inflation last year ran at 70%. Essentials like fuel oil which were subsidised under Saddam are now taxed.

Since 2003 hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been killed and millions fled the country.

Remember Fallujah, it is America that is the monster, they launched an unprovoked war of aggression against a country which was no threat to them.

 

So what you are trying to say is that by allowing members of the IRA to live freely in America the American government was guilty of the Brighton bombing.

 

The point is that any country that has ONE MILLION of its citizens TORTURED & MURDERED by a PSYCHO....SADDAM woulda been GRATEFUL to ANYONE that elminated that butthole.......IRAQ WAS ATYPICAL !!![/B

WHY ???

I gave the answers:

"Why would a country like IRAQ with approx ONE MILLION of it's own citizens TORTURED & MURDERED by the Baghdad Psycho Saddam not express gratitude to America for getting rid of this Baghdad Monster .... and not only not express gratitude...... but tolerate the so-called "insurgents" from its Islamist neighbors, especially IRAN ?

Answer: IRAN is totally controlled by the Shiite Imams who are pathologically fearful of having America establish a SECULAR democracy in the Mid East thus diminishing the almost, or TOTAL POWER of the Islamist Imams in the Mid East. So these IMAMS (whether Shiite or Sunni) in IRAQ have threatened the ignorant brainwashed masses of Muslims with ETERNAL (*)(*)(*)(*)ATION (not being able to pork 72 virgins and not getting bonged outs their skulls ...and a helluva lot worse) ....plus, paying Mafia-type thugs to intimidate anyone not following their script with torture & death.

That is why even the Sunni Wahhabis, who hate the Iranian Shiites, hate the Americans MORE ....and, also , brainwash their followers about America being the GREAT SATAN.

I suppose , by being an ISLAMIST of the Iranian Mullah type, or a supporter of them......you will NEVER......EVER.....accept this IRREFUTABLE REALITY."

The reasons why Iraq may, or may not, be in better shape in some respects is NOT due to the intervention of America ..........but due to the F-ed (F for Fig) Mullahs who PATHOLOGICALLY FEAR A SECULAR NON-ISLAMIC DEMOCRACY in the MID EAST........ and have ravaged IRAQ in the process of making sure that the ISLAMIC FAITH by the MULLAHS is not diminished.

Saddam ran what one may consider a SECULAR ISLAMIC Country......Again, what the Mullahs FEAR is a SECULAR GOVT, even though Islamic in nature......but that is not that INFLUENCED by ISLAMISM and uses the WESTERN MODEL !!!

AND THE REASON THE SUNNI Wahhabis HATE AMERICA IS THAT the Baghdad Monster AND HIS COTERIE WERE STILL SUNNIS.

 

Fallujah was a quiet Sunni city of 250,000 that was NOT hostile until the US bombed the crap out of them.

 

Sanctions had killed over a million Iraqis, over half of them children, before we even invaded.

We killed a load more Iraqis than Saddam ever did.

Saddam might have been a homicidal psychopath but he was their homicidal psychopath. Bush was a homicidal psychopath from a different continent and culture.

 

I presented IRREFUTABLE FACTS in my posts ...... yet they are met with all sorts of inane, contrived excuses, from the established certified IslamoApologists that attempt to obfuscate the REALITY of the situation.

One could say I predicted the reaction of some of the IslamoApologists in my preceding post:


"I suppose , by being an ISLAMIST of the Iranian Mullah type, or a supporter of them......you will NEVER......EVER.....accept this IRREFUTABLE REALITY."

 

Somehow I don't think you would know what a fact was if it jumped up and bit you.

Saddam was very popular in Iraq among the people he didn't kill.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123533923

Note that in pre invasion Iraq people were afraid to criticise Saddam for fear of being arrested and tortured by the police while in post invasion Iraq people were afraid to praise him for fear of being arrested and tortured by the Americans.

 

I want the rational readers on this Forum to consider if the following quote isn't one of the most IDIOTICALLY BIZARRE and OUTRAGEOUSLY GROTESQUE attempts at misinformation by the IslamoApologist fredc:

"Note that in pre invasion Iraq people were afraid to criticise Saddam for fear of being arrested and tortured by the police while in post invasion Iraq people were afraid to praise him for fear of being arrested and tortured by the Americans."

Even if we ignore that NONE.....I say.....NONE..... of the mayhem and death would have occurred if not for the NINE YEARS of the UNDECLARED WAR against America caused by the SWINISH IRANIAN MULLAHS, and the other paid Islamist Mafia Thugs who struck the FIRST BLOW and started the IRAQI QUAGMIRE ..... with its "INSURGENTS" TERRORIZING ANY OF THE IRAQIS friendly to the Americans, or Pro-American Forces, by TORTURING & MURDERING the friendlies AND THEIR FAMILIES, INCLUDING THEIR WO)MEN & CHILDREN ....which is an oft DOCUMENTED FACT .........

We have fredc, a certified, and probably a proud IslamoApologist, claiming that: AMERICA IS COMPARABLE TO THE BAGHDAD PSYCHO IN THE TORTURE & MURDER OF THE IRAQI POPULATION !!!

I want the rational readers to make a judgement as to who is more credible between me fredc ....and, the other IslamoApologist

Here we have one of the IslamoApologists claiming that the Wahhabis, THE WELL KNOWN Crazed, Fanatical Islamist Mullahs who would probably be on par with Himmler's Gestapo if they had the power ......and whose disciples were the 9/11 Terrorists .....described as nice friendly chaps .......ROFLMAO !!!

And, believe it or not....FALLUJAH ...... the TERRORIST STRONGHOLD.....which practically the ENTIRE Democratic Army of IRAQ couldn't even fight itself into it's periphery ........and, basically prevented from gaining an inch of ground because of its VICIOUS TERRORIST FORCES ENTRENCHED THERE ...... This FALLUJAHs described by BOTH of the IslamoApologists as a peaceful, friendly, sunny town of 250,000.......ROFLMAO !!!!

I mean, how NAIVE & IGNORANT do these IslamoApologists think we are ?!?!?!?

Is there any LIMIT to this ARROGANCE ?!?!?

 

That is what the Iraqi in the article said.

It would be rational to believe that is how it was.

 

This is truly unbelievable: fredc posts ONE of Saddam Loyalist's pukes ........ and, judging from his prior posts, concludes that: AMERICA TORTURED & MURDERED THE IRAQI POPULATION THE WAY THE BAGHDAD PSYCHO DID:

I quote fredc:

"Note that in pre invasion Iraq people were afraid to criticise Saddam for fear of being arrested and tortured by the police while in post invasion Iraq people were afraid to praise him for fear of being arrested and tortured by the Americans."

Here are some more IRREFUTUBLE FACTS that will be PREDICTABLY ignored by the IslamoApologists:

Japan was RAZED TO THE GROUND by America in WWII.

And, America, by being USSR's ally, basically RAZED GERMANY TO THE GROUND in WWII.

IN NINE YEARS.....the same time America had to fight the UNDECLARED WAR with the IRANIAN MULLAH ISLAMISTS, the other Mullah driven Islamists....and their paid Islam MAFIA-TYPE thugs....... IN NINE YEARS: BOTH JAPAN, and the AMERICAN CONTROLLED GERMANY ....FREE FROM ANY OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE.......BECAME SUPER POWERS, OR JUST A FEW YEARS LATER !!!

NOTE: And, IRAQ .....if I'm not mistaken......has the SECOND LARGEST OIL RESERVES IN THE MID EAST ........is in SHAMBLES ......BE$CAUSE OF THE ISLAMIST MULLAHS SEEKING TO PROTECT THEIR RELIGIOUS POWER OVER THE ABYSMALLY IGNORANT MID EAST MASSES !!!

WTF else is necessary to prove that the IslamoApologists are simply full of it ???

 

LOLOL you must be talking about the human chippers. Yet there were 50 Christian churches in Baghdad before Bush attacked a country broken by two decades of war and sanctions.

Read Clean Break Strategy.... Why sell out the US, loong?

 

Did you not see the photos from Abu Ghraib?

 

Whether The Baghdad Psycho Saddam had 50 Christian Churches or TEN THOUSAND ...... if one is marginally sane .....one cannot compare The Baghdad Monster Saddam's Modus Operandi with that of America. PERIOD.

But, you certified IslamoApologists will try to justify the Iranian Mullah, and Wahhabi type Islamists no matter what the REALITY is.

I know you, and the others of your ilk, will keep trying. ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

My answer to your predictable misinformation will be:

1) Ignoring the post.

Or, (2) the following statement:


"I suppose , by being an ISLAMIST of the Iranian Mullah and/or Wahhabi type, or a supporter of them......you will NEVER......EVER.....accept IRREFUTABLE REALITY."

 

We've supported terror in Iran for years.