Iran parliament increases missile funds to confront US

Iran is (and was) strategically situated so that the government of Iran offered to assist the US in destroying Al Qaida in the aftermath of 9/11. The US did not even reply.

 

Don't worry, occasionally you make them so angry that they shyt themselves digging and digging to prove you are wrong. In the process, they find out that you are more often right than you are wrong. They won't admit it of course but eventually, the weight of all that fact and truth tips the scale and they become "born again".

 

Not interested. If you had a clue you'd know the IAEA is the UN's nuclear monitor, it has absolutely nothing to do with arms transfers. missiles, etc. Keep spouting nonsense, I'd have more respect for you if you just admitted you were mistaken.

 

Yeah sure, the 8 MM Israelis should take your word for it, just as they should assume MK would never do that either. Sorry, but sane people would prefer a more rational, adult approach.

Why don't you mention how iran has provided massive, highly accurate missiles to terrorist groups surrounding israel. Oh that's right, the jew-hating crew here is happy about that...

 

First you falsely claim the IAEA monitors missiles and arms, then you claim sunnis/shia muslims have not aligned against Israel or the West, despite being completely, laughably, wrong.

hamas = sunni
iran= shis
iran and hamas work closely together against Israel

Still spouting nonsense?

 

Yes, I'm aware. It appears you'll only accept pro-Iranian sources as your information. No problem, I'm not trying to convince you. I'm just trying to convince others you are wrong.

 

And why don't you tell us exactly how many countries with nuclear weapons have sold/given nuclear weapons to terrorists in the 70+ years nuclear weapons have existed?

If you think providing more accurate missiles to Hezbollah is anything remotely like giving nuclear weapons to terrorists - then I suggest you do not even know the difference between the two of them. They are beyond apples and oranges...they are apples and ocean liners.

 

So where is your link to an UNBIASED site that proves you are SOOO right and he is SOOOO wrong?

All you have provided so far is bluster and ZERO proof...so where is it?

 

Iran and Syria to be precise - offered to put differences aside for the moment to focus all energy on Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria.

Again the US did not reply.

In the the case of Syria it turned out that the US (in conjunction with Saud, Qatar and others) was arming and supporting Al Qaeda and ISIS while lying to the US public claiming to be on the side of "moderates"

 

The plot really is thick, isn't it. There was a time when I assumed that people figured they could trust the US government on the strength of its WW II contributions. I am probably right too. OK, we've seen Operation TP Ajax and the turn of events in Cuba during the 50's but the American population knew nothing so they could continue sleeping while Europe and the Middle East were getting wise. Then there was Vietnam ... and most everyone understood what was afoot, even the Americans. So one should be able to assume that the Americans have been following along and understand what the US has been up to in Asia, Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East just as much as the rest of us understand. But apparently not. How is that possible? Can you explain it to me?

 

YOU claimed the IAEA's role was to monitor arms transferrals and missile research, which is total nonsense, as to be expected:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Energy_Agency#Missions

The IAEA is generally described as having three main missions:

• Peaceful uses: Promoting the peaceful uses of nuclear energy by its member states,
• Safeguards: Implementing safeguards to verify that nuclear energy is not used for military purposes, and
• Nuclear safety: Promoting high standards for nuclear safety.[20]

https://www.iaea.org/topics/basics-of-iaea-safeguards

"The objective of IAEA Safeguards is to deter the spread of nuclear weapons by the early detection of the misuse of nuclear material or technology. This provides credible assurances that States are honouring their legal obligations that nuclear material is being used only for peaceful purposes."

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The IAEA has NOTHING to do with the other UNSC resolutions regarding iran's illegal arms transfers to terrorist groups nor its internal missile development program.

You can thank me for educating you so thoroughly on the subject.

 

Things have changed since Vietnam. As Eisenhower predicted, the "military industrial complex" is alive and well and running the show in relation to foreign policy. What this means in English is that the international financiers who own the MIC and the banks, Energy, Food, healthcare oligopoly ... run the show.

The "Establishment" is the Oligarchs, elite politicians (both red and blue) and the deep state bureaucracy. I call it the Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion Monster.

We have a "Pay to Play" system. When you play you get paid. It is not for nothing that Hillary gets 250K for a 15 min speech at a banker luncheon. It is for a job well done. You play ... you get paid and everyone knows it .. and so most play.

Generals get cushy lobbyist positions. Professors get to sit on some board of directors. There is a whole lot of ways to get paid .. so long as you Play.

Make it to congress and insider trading is effectively legal. You (or better yet your buddy) can sit on committee giving contract to ABC company and you can invest in that company before the news hits the street. This is a license to print money !

I want in on that game !! Sure from time to time you get some lone voice ... some do gooder calling out this practice. Everyone then points and says "LOOK LOOK ... we have freedom of speech here ... what a good system we have".

That lone voice is then quickly drowned out by the cacophony on the take. Can you blame them ? Would you be the one to shoot the goose laying the golden eggs ?
Would you be the one to run against a herd of stampeding bulls ? I wouldn't.

It is the natural outcropping of self interest and greed.

OK .. back to your question. Vietnam to now. The Establishment now owns, or controls the Media/MSM. Books have been written on this topic more than 30 years ago ... such as "Manufacturing Consent - Political economy of the Mass media" and "Necessary Illusions - thought control in a democratic society". This is where the term "All the news that is fit to print" comes from.

We have been at war in Yemen for 2 years. "Who knew ??" Where is Yemen.
Where are the reporters on the front lines reporting what is going on. What we are doing there is nasty... this not news that is "fit" to print.

Arming and supporting Al Qaeda ... oohh no ... say goodbye to your job if you speak about this in any detail on network news. Phil Donahue learned that lesson the hard way and all he did was speak out against the Iraq war. This is nothing in comparison to "arming Al Qaeda"

The fact that Obama/Hillary were arming the 911 terrorist group is NOT .."fit" to print. Election or no election. Even Trump did not say this.

Rand Paul did though, as did Senator Richard Black, Tulsi Gabbard said it and got 9 others in congress to sponsor her bill .. re-instating the bill that banned tax dollars to terrorists. (Obama repealed that bill in 2013 ... so he could arm terrorists - this got the silent treatment in the MSM).

We do not really have news on the major television networks anymore. Long gone are the days when a "news anchor" sat there and read the news "This happened today ... " No opinion/editorializing ... just the facts.

First rule of journalism school is "thou shalt not editorialize". That's all we get on the TV so called"news" these days. Editorializing that competes with the like of the National Enquirer.

Sure there are folks that can and still do read. The Establishment does not mind the few that educate themselves. As long as the stampeding raging masses drink the cool-aid .. the status quo is maintained and so is the Oligarchy.

 

The only why you show your ignorance again is because you failed to see the link which clearly debunks the myths you spew.

 

Hey Max - let's see some "proof" that the IAEA is a pro Iran source.

Folks, here is yet another right wing lie that will never be proven to have any truth to it.


As with every other right wing post on this forum, it is yet another:

 

Lovely! "the Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion Monster". Ike is probably twitching that he didn't coin it first. In fact, the only thing of importance you fail to mention is "embedded journalism".

 

Wow. do you really think that enlarged font, extra spacing and a big "FAIL" picture proves you correct? Fine. Go ahead and believe that. Let all your friends believe it too.

 

LOL.

If you are so confident that the IAEA is wrong, then just go ahead and present your evidence. While you're at it, take your claim and evidence to the world court.


It's just so easy to defeat the anti-USA right wingers on this forum.

 

Why? Will it change your mind? You made a statement asking for a link. When I posted not one, but two independent links, you moved the goalposts. Now you are moving the goalposts again. Why should anyone trust a dishonest person?

 

What are you blathering about? I claimed nothing of the sort, I simply asked you for a link. I will let Mr_Truth decide what he thinks of the link you finally provided.

 

Their parliament only chants you are the great Satan because they dont know any better, hugs is whats needed here.

 

Your other half of a country simply sees throu the BS you proudly wear as glasses.

 

I dont recall daily threats of bombing Iran, the height of the tesnsions was before the deal was signed and no one sane ever thought Obama will bomb Iran, and the place "surrounding" Iran where US ships are is called Saudia, not US fault they are fueding is it ?

It's modern intersts that seperates the two not the 50's, Israel and Germany are allies now while Iran's "protest" regime is not going away - the US should just take the blows on account of the 50's ? its their choice to hate it, like we hated Germany.

Why do Lefties always have these ridicolous crescendo's Ill never undestand......

 

There are many things I did not mention ... How many novels would you like to read .. but yes. That is a good point which deserves attention - embedded journalism.

Extreme capitalism and extreme socialism (totalitarian communism) meet at the far end of the spectrum. In both cases you have a few elite owning most resources and means of production. Somehow we are managing to fuse the worst of both into this ugly monster than we see now.

 

Only one chapter at a time. ..

One can say that it was contrived during the Vietnam war and put on ice until they could put it into practice.

I think of it as the point where capitalism and socialism become Fascism ... that's where they meet.

 

I do not think we can classify this new form of totalitarianism under traditional definitions. In every situation it is a struggle between the "have's and the have not's" The rich want to keep their wealth and the poor want more wealth.

The previous ways this struggle has panned out are what they are. This is new and more evolved and sophisticated method ... but it all relates back to the very rich wanting to keep their wealth and power.

We should then not expect things to look like the regimes of Stalin or Hitler but look at what the methods used by these folks in taking power were ... not what it looked like after the fact.

The canaries in the totalitarian coal mine are screaming ! Control of the media, increased Gov't power and increased police powers.

There is nothing new about using fear of an external threat to take away liberty in exchange for the illusion of security.

The founders knew well this trick "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security" Ben Franklin.

Stalin used this trick to usher in "Security for the Motherland"
Hitler did the same "Fatherland security"

Bush ... lacking the creativity to dome up with a new name .. used fear of an external threat to usher in "Homeland Security". Instead of "give me liberty or give me death" it became our "Patriotic duty" to trade essential liberty for security.

Obama then came along and change the name of the "Patriot Act" to the equally Orwellian doublespeak "Freedom Act".