Iran; ' There's no reason to attack us '

Ahmed believes in the 12th imam and believes he will come and save them from the evil Jews therefore does not fear retaliation for using a nuke. He'll use it as soon as he gets it.

 

Israel doesn't need to physically occupy Iran to destroy its nuclear capabilities. The world is on the verge of a new era. Big bombs are so passe. Minitiarization and precision are leading to a new way of waging war. If you don't believe me ask that horse's ass Obama what Prompt Global Strike is.

I'm sorry if I haven't answered your post. This effin ambien shxt leaves me with short term memory loss. What was your question again?

 

There's no reason for the US to attack Iran. The last thing we need is to get involved in another middle east pissing match.

Let Israel, the Saudis, and Iranians fight it out.

 

There is more reason for us to attack Iran then there was for us to attack Libya.

 

Not really, Libya is already turning out to be another foreign policy blunder, as would an attack on Iran.

Aren't you folks tired of war?

 

Bring the boys and girls home. There's no reason to fight any one except leftists.

On a more serious note, Israel is going to attack Iran. It has no choice according to the Israeli view. When that happens Iran will attack Americans in the Middle East and Afghanistan. But if the Americans have gone home, it will be difficult for the Iranians to kill them.

 

My thoughts exactly.

Unfortunately, some folks seem to be under the impression that we can keep bankrolling unlimited war in the middle east, and throwing lives away to boot..

 

Well you sound like a scholar and a gentleman.

 

You don't, Albert.

What is being decided in the Knesset is America's role in pursuing another war. Don't tell me that Washington isn't under AIPAC's control.

 

..and just HOW did this massive conspiracy come about please?

its not like Jews are significant voting bloc, and they don't fund candidates, so what exact mechanism of control does AIPAC have supposedly? They don't have any levers to manipulate. You act as if AIPAC has some kind of magical card up its sleeve or something.

 

Washington isn't under anyone's control. America is like deck guns on a heaving ship.

 

Our little interlocutor has difficulty accepting the fact that Americans consider Muslims to be the Other.

 

Another idiotic statement, why would Israel want Iraq to be attacked? Saddam was the only big leader in the area that counters Iran and he did nothing against Israel,

Before , during and after the war - Israel gained nothing, its only your hamas propaganda crap that you keep blaming Israel and jews about everything that happens in the middle east, there are many foriegn intersts in this region and its resources, it just so happens that Israel enemies are also threat foreign powers intersts here - that's it.

 

People that were brainwashed since early age about conspiracy and world domination cant grasp common sense, they think that organizations that support a country with the population of just one big city in any world power - can control the world, you cant reason with such twisted minds.

 

I dont have time to watch a 48 m movie, you can state your point from that movie, the fact that it was filmed doesnt make a diffrence to me,

was i so far off when i said it's about money-politicts?

 

Now that I've picked myself up from the floor from laughing, I thought I might point out that non-muslims can also lie. Both can also tell the truth. This has nothing to do with what Iran may say.. a politician will lie to his own people, muslim or otherwise, regardless of what some text says.

 

What utter bollox. Israel bombed Saddam's civil nuclear reactor.

 

In 81!

What's the twisted connection to Bush attack at 2003???

 

I hope you continue posting this in other threads. I have seen so many times that Saddam was this massive threat to Israel. The invasion in 2003 has caused a bigger threat to Israel, however it wont be from nukes

 

Bush's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan did nothing at all to increase US security.

Israel has its own destiny.. continuing to refuse peace and build settlements is their choice.

 

There's a difference between choosing to lie out of your own volition and lying because your religion encourages it.

There is a principle in the Quran that encourages Muslims to lie to non-Muslims under certain conditions.

All of this stems from the fact that, like Christianity, Islam has a vested interest in converting everyone.

As long as people continue to believe in religions that emphasize the end of the world and converting people to a mythology with rather dire consequences for not believing, we'll continue to have a lot of conflict and deceit stemming from religion.

 

That's true, but I think you would have a hard time proving that any Muslim does it because the Religion may encourage it.

There is no basis that this occurs, rather than lying for the more general reasons (some sort of gain personally, politically, monetory, etc).


They are not going to lie to non-muslims "just because that's the thing to do". There is always a specific reason to lie. Just because a religion may say it's ok, doesn't mean that anyone wouldn't do it otherwise.

 

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Here's the part I was referring to...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

Now, admittedly, most of this doesn't seem so sinister, but this is a concept that seems somewhat easy to use in ways that most of us would consider unethical.

 

No there isn't.. You should probably READ the Koran.

You can lie if your wife says .. Do these pants make me look fat or if the truth would cause conflict within the family.

Remember that Abraham lied to protect himself from Pharoah.

Lying and false accusation is an extremely serious crime in Islam..

If you lie .. accusing someone of a crime and are proven false, you will receive the punishment they would have received.

Perjury is not ignored as a minor offense in the Arab world.

Where did you learn about Islam?

 

It wasn't within the confines of indoctrination, if that's what you're asking.