Iran warns of war...

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  1. highlander

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    Mmm....easy for you to say....but please lets not mock those less well off in the intellectual stakes!
    The Talmud supporters own the educational facilities this idiots...I mean these pupils attended!

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html
    Many links from here... whether its fully truthful or not I have yet to ascertain but very interesting anyway!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
  2. Oddquine

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    You could ask exactly the same questions of Israel..but the big difference is that Israel doesn't let the IAEA within spitting distance of anything to do with their nuclear facilites, so can't be kept an eye on.

    So if it is acceptable for Israel to have nuclear energy.and nuclear weapons...why is it not acceptable for the rest of the world to have them?

    That would apply, in particular, to the poor sodding countries with paranoid, irrational Israel as neighbours.....after all, has Israel not just attained the kudos in Europe of beating even the US as the most dangerous country in the world.....so it will take a lot more than Murdoch's media propaganda to convince the unconvinced that Iran is anything like as big a danger as the US and Israel.

    It is telling that those two countries contain most of the Jewish population of the world between them.......cause and effect, do you think?
     
  3. snakestretcher

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    I wonder why Petraeus didn't just say it out loud-it's a war of propaganda; demonising, mud-slinging, accusation after accusation, until 'Iran=evil' is firmly established in the psyche of the unthinking masses.
    We've heard it all before, so why do people keep falling for this crap?
     
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    Former Mossad Chief Meir Dagan seems to have a better grip than AIPAC.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...nity-not-logic-guides-israels-leadership.html
     
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  6. moon

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    Let's say - the price tag for condemning the non-existent Iranian nuke program will be the demolition of all illegal neoZionist squats in Palestine. That's all of them. There are no legal neoZionist squats in Palestine.
     
  7. Albert Di Salvo

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    But its decision last year to start refining uranium to 20 percent fissile purity -- up from 3.5 percent usually required for nuclear energy stations -- alarmed the West as it brought it closer to the 90 percent level needed for atomic bombs.

    Experts say that having a stockpile of 20 percent uranium would significantly cut the time needed to break out and produce material needed for weapons, if Iran wanted to.

    Further stoking Western and Israeli suspicions, Iran is preparing to shift the 20 percent enrichment to an underground bunker near the holy city of Qom, for enhanced protection against any military strikes.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/06/us-nuclear-iran-qa-idUSTRE7A50OC20111106

    That's a long way from the 90% requirement.
     
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    Good work, Margot.
     
  10. spiellgood

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    Israel did not sign the treaty and is not bound by it.

    Israel has had them for 50 years and is not a threat to its neighbors, Iran is a terrorist fascist state that regularly murders its own citizens and others around the world. Iran has multiple terrorist proxies conducting wars across the middle east, no other nation is such a threat to world peace.

    When I see Israel hanging gay people, arresting people en masse for demonstrating peacefully, for arresting and vanishing actors, writers and human rights lawyers, for allowing zero freedom of assembly or speech, running a dictatorship where unelected criminals steal the nation's wealth, and subjugating the entire nation's population to a life of misery and poverty, when I see huge numbers of people fleeing Israel due to the lack of freedom, when I see Israel blowing up civilian centers and conducting massive truck bombings all like Iran does - THEN I and others might agree.

    Until then, the rogue, criminal regime of Iran will remain the world's top terror sponsor and most hated country in the middle east and beyond.
     
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    Israel has used its nuclear arsenal several times for purposes of blackmail..

    Like threatening to bomb the Saudi oilfields if the US didn't intervene in 1973 when they were getting hammered.

    The most hated country and least honorable ally in the ME is Israel.. and they have been a problem for every US president since Eisenhower.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/215584-attack-iran-aipacs-infamous-chutzpah.html
     
  12. moon

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    Israel has signed the United Nations Charter and is bound by that. To see the Zionist hypocrisy at play is certainly policy-forming.
     
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    Clearly, you do not understand nuclear physics. As the article stated, the process from 20% to 90% is easily and quickly achievable.

    You also overlooked the fact that civilian needs are for 3.5% enrichment, so why did you gloss over the fact they enriched to 20%? Agenda, perhaps?
     
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    Isn't 20% about the requirement for a medical reactor?

    Remember reading this somewhere a while ago (might have been on anti-war.com).....that western officials are widely expected to use the increase in enrichment levels as an excuse to press for additional sanctions against Iran. Now was that prophesy or was that prophesy an understatement? :twisted:

    Re the putting them underground.........if I had continual war mongering rhetoric shading into threatened action heading in my direction, I'd be putting the whole country into underground bunkers......not just power and medical utilities.
     
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    The NPT is not part of the UN charter, I guess you needed to learn that fact. Please research the UN charter at the UN site and come back to us after reading it carefully, you'll find it does not mention an NPT treaty.
     
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    Truth of the matter is, no one really knows where Iran is in it's development.

    Hell, if I were working on a project, and everyone kept telling me I was gonna get my butt kicked as it neared completion... I would not be forthcoming. Why are we to believe they are honest with the IAEA?

    One thing is a certainty, if or when they develop the capability, the world will become a more dangerous place.

    **sigh**
     
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    Because Israel keeps threatening them and has a long track record of pre-emptive strikes based on paranooia.

    Don't you remember back in 2002 when Ariel Sharon announced to the world that as soon as Bush finished with Iraq, Israel and the US were going to bomb Iran?

    Israel is culpable in all the friction and fear in the ME.. They can't play victims here.

    Their goal is to take more land and water no matter who it belongs to.. they have never wavered on that objective..
     
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    Uh, there is no connection as Israel threatened to bomb SA, not use nuclear weapons on them or anyone else. Fail, miserably.

    And if the arab nations did not attack Israel multiple times, there would be no conflict with Israel.

    Iran is hegemonistic, and a worldwide threat.
     
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    I don't agree. The US of AIPAC has demonstrated to everybody that it doesn't openly attack those with a nuclear deterrent. On the other hand it does attack those without one ( after inventing one for its purposes ) So, if the US of AIPAC is going to attack you if you don't have one then you'd better git one, quick smart. Amazingly enough, Iran's religious leadership doesn't permit nuclear or biological weapons . So, not only are the Iranians a darn sight more honest than the West but they're a darn sighty more moral too. No wonder the neoZionists are so terrified of them.
     
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    Because Iranians are as entitled to have medical facilities as anybody else?

    Enrichment to 90% needs the will to enrich.....and so far, nobody...but nobody, has shown that Iran intends to do that.

    Given that Israel handed the world their nuclear weapons fully formed and unmonitored.then or now......at least Iran is obeying the rules one helluva lot more than Israel has ever done.

    It appears that Iran's big mistake was to try and be upfront about their intentions, and do it through the UN...while the secretive wee ********s in Israel get away with it because they obey no rules that they did not write themselves.

    Learn from Iran's problems, all you countries who might want to acquire nuclear weapons, because of the scary ********s who already have them.....and go the no show, no tell route......that way you'll have no problem with other countries objecting.....just like Israel.
     
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    Israel threatened to bomb Saudi Arabia's oilfields.. Saudi Arabia was NOT involved at all to blackmail the US... and 6,000 Americans would have been killed.

    You have a sense of entitlement.. that you can steal land and water with impunity and how dare the inhabitants object.

    Hegemonistic? What do YOU think Iran wants from Israel?
     
  22. spiellgood

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    Like in 67 when the arabs moved massive amounts of men and armor right onto their borders? Or in 73 when they were actually attacked?

    Now you're bordering on the lunatic. Come up with something substantial and rational.
     
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    More dangerous than it is now with Israel and the US blowing off about nothing which exists outside their own paranoia?

    I think not!
     
  24. spiellgood

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    Iran's constitution calls for freedom of speech and assembly, funny how that's worked out for people getting shot in the streets in iran or the hundreds of closed newspapers there.

    Proclamations and statements by the iranian government are worth less than used toilet paper, as are the posts of several of those on this forum.
     
  25. Angedras

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    Point taken. And, I can't say that I disagree.
     

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