Iraq war 20 years

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is why WMD were seized on as a public justification.
     
  2. Endeavor

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    That’s makes it even worse that someone willingly coming online and telling people free independent European miss USSR.
     
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    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    We know. The administration lied to public for the justification going to war.
     
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    No they are not. They are not Nostalgic of “secret police”, they are not nostalgic of Russian sending their family member or families all the way to Siberia or just killing them like cattle. They are not nostalgic of government take their land, home , shop and giving it to the Russian. They are not nostalgic of living constant threat of death. Someone has to be insane to be nostalgic about dictator killing their family member.
     
  5. Endeavor

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    Why take my word for it, take the VP of Trump himself.

    This is just yesterday.

    Mike Pence faces skepticism over his Jan. 6 break with Trump on the campaign trail (nbcnews.com)

    SIOUX CITY, Iowa — A voter confronted former Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday about his actions on Jan. 6, 2021, accusing him of having unfairly handed over the election to Joe Biden.

    “Do you ever second-guess yourself? That was a constitutional right that you had to send those votes back to the states,” the woman said as Pence was taking questions at a crowded Pizza Ranch restaurant here. She said Pence “changed history” by refusing to send the 2020 election results back to the states for a recount.

    “I’m sorry, ma’am, but that’s actually what the Constitution says,” Pence told the woman at the Pizza Ranch. “No vice president in American history ever asserted the authority that you have been convinced that I had. But I want to tell you, with all due respect … President Trump was wrong about my authority that day, and he’s still wrong.”



    A President who wants to circumvent Constitution of USA and send state result back to state because he doesn’t like the result. And American people rather have this guy as President because they want cheap Gas. Well if gas price is more precious then American democracy, then Americans don’t deserve democracy.
     
  6. Jack Hays

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    Actually, they thought it was true.
     
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    They did so so he COULD do it. It is always the President's choice when and if and how to use that miliary force. And he Dems overwhelmingly supported it.

    I was always AMERICA's military action.

    The "war" was over realively quickly it was the reestablishing an Iraq government and civil order that took longer. And when the Dems and MSM realized how the public supported Bush they became he 5th column attacking the President in the most vile manners demanding he pull out and embolding our enemies to continue the fight.

    Plus, our shipping pallets of dollars were going ... ???

    Do you hint think every other war in which we have fought has been perfect? Do you believe wars can be perfectly pre-planned as to how they will progess and rhe aftermatth? The fact is the worst management came with the Obama/Biden foul up.
     
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    The US policy was to force a stalemate and force a cease fire and end of hostilities with neither side winning.
     
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    As the Clinton administration, the Bush43 administration, the Bush41 administration, and he majority of the western states said he was a threat to his own people, the region and the world and would remain one as long as he was in power. YOUR simple dismissals and specious declarations otherwise refute none of them.

    He supported the terrorist groups in their war against the western states because he believed he could use them to his own aims and advantage.

    Why would we have been better off with Saddam still in power with his army rebuilt and his WMD arsenals restcked with even better weapons and well on his way to a nuclear device working with terrorist groups to defeat the westen states and further his dominance ofthe region?
     
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    I'm not telling people. THEY are telling it! lol
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_nostalgia

    You don't know people.
     
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    Oh, yes they are.
    Read post 486.
     
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    No it wasn't. The stalemate happened two years before the end. The US then swapped sides to prolong the war by another two years
     
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    sure
     
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    A comment from a voter somewhere to pence doesn't inicate any plot by Trump to o anything. Heck, I have a voting neighbor that says Biden takes orders from China... does that make it so?
     
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    The comment I highlighted is not a voter's comment , it was Mike Pence’s comment. Mike Pence is wrong about constitutional power VP has to reject the Election result each state sent.


    “I’m sorry, ma’am, but that’s actually what the Constitution says,” Pence told the woman at the Pizza Ranch. “No vice president in American history ever asserted the authority that you have been convinced that I had. But I want to tell you, with all due respect … President Trump was wrong about my authority that day, and he’s still wrong.” Mike Pence
     
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    Ok, so Pence misunderstands an administrative regulation. So what? Again, I see no intent concerning Trump... anywhere. And as you drift further and further from Trump...
     
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    And our policy was to keep it that way and neither side gaining anything until they gave up fighting.
     
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    They were ready to give up fighting two years before the end. The US wanted more bloodshed
     
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    Where did THAT BS come from? LOLOL.... Please... please.... prove that... LOL... or try.
     
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    Obama shouldn't get a pass either. Nor should Trump. It didn't end until Biden finally ended it. The insanity of US aggression overseas is pretty bipartisan.
     
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    You going to deny that the US swapped sides?
     
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    Biden's cowardly run away from Afghanistan is a national disgrace, a national embarrassment and emboldened Putin to invade Ukraine. Biden armed the terrorist Taliban along the way and abandoned US citizens and allies. America was not "aggressive". America went to Afghanistan to kill bin Laden... and we did that.
     
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    "Swapped sides"? Oh... ok... you mean when Biden armed our enemies, the Taliban. Ok.
     
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    So you don't want to educate yourself, you just want to play politics….

    OK..
     

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