Iraq war 20 years

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  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    Pence didn’t misunderstand “Administrative regulation” which is in US constitution. Here are some Trump’s tweet from Jan 6 asking Mike Pence to circumvent USA constitution and send election result back to state so the State can send “correct” result back to congress.


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    But for some Americans lower gas price is far more important then US constitution or circumvent/ band. throwaway US constitution and put a dictator as President so they can have $2.67 gas. I am so proud to call myself an American!
     
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    Thank God Biden left Afghanistan. If not more and more American would have died in Afghanistan. Biden promised to leave in Afghanistan. And so he did. Promise made and Promise Kept. How many US President can say that? Obama wanted to leave Afghanistan too, but he didn’t because it might look weak.

    Oh, we Biden supporter are happy that after 3 US Presidents and 20 years a President had the courage to do what is right and not what “ politically look right”.
     
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    Nothing was ever swept under the rug? That statement strains credibility. As we learned a few years ago, almost everything was swept under the rug. The Afghanistan Papers review: superb exposé of a war built on lies | Books | The Guardian
     
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    I am quite well educated on the matter and prepared to debate you on the facts but find it impossible if you do not state your rebuttal. It is for you to post it not me.
     
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    Apparently not because what I posted showed you dont

    then when you read it and see what it says, your rebuttal is to obfuscate by claiming you didn’t read it,….
     
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    Prove it does then put your mouth where your money is.
     
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    No one suggests throwing away the Constitution for cheaper gas prices. That's a childish assertion. So is the assertion that anyone would throw away the Constitution simply by believing that an election and its results were tainted. In America we have the freedom to say we think an election and its results were tainted.
    Tweets are talk. Talk means nothing. Actions count.
     
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    No one disputes that we should have left Afghanistan. But Biden's cowardly "skidaddle" with his tail between his legs embarrassed our whole nation and emboldened Putin to attack Ukraine. Biden's continuing cowardice in dealing with China's violation of US airspace and Russia's shooting down our Predator will continue to embolden our enemies for generations.

    The fact that he abandoned US citizens an allies in Afghanistan while gifting billions of dollars in armaments to the terrorist Taliban, only exacerbated the shame he brought on the USA.
     
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    Hilary Clinton might have lost the election for her characterization of Trump supporter, but she was accurate on her assessment.

    Lower gas price is more important to them then US democracy.
     
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    Promise made, Promise Kept. Simple as that.
     
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    Clinton, being a democrat, was unable to communicate, let alone campaign ... without using childish insults.
    I'm still waiting for some hateful, biased democrat to explain what Trump did that was so awful that it caused them to hate the man.

    Democracy is our most cherished possession. It is Democracy that allows us to rid ourselves of tyrants that would maneuver the cost of living to unbearable levels, allow us to dismiss leaders that leave our borders wide open, that enables us to replace leaders that allow criminals run rampant, that allow us to sen leaders packing by embarrassing the nation with cowardly runaways from our enemies... and more. It even helps us get rid of useless leaders that drive gas prices through the roof.
     
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    Rumsfeld was SEC DEV in 2003.
     
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    No one promised anyone that America would run like a cowardly dog from Afghanistan, embarrassing the entire nation, emboldening Putin to invade Ukraine while arming the terrorist Taliban and abandoning US citizens and allies to the Taliban. No one ever promise that. Biden just DID IT.
     
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    Defending Trump action from Nov 6, 2020 until today and then same sentence use phrase “Democracy is our most cherished possession” . you are just deceiving yourself that you believe in Democracy.

    Any way , enough of this. If you truly believed in democracy , we wouldn’t be having this conversation. I think I wasted enough time for today. Have a nice weekend.
     
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    SEC DEV? secretary of.... DEVelopment? DEViance?
     
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    I am not embarrassed Neither are Biden supporter. We really don’t give a f$$$ what MAGA crowed says.
     
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    sec def
     
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    If your going to debate, at least debate with facts:

    TRUMP withdrew us from Afghanistan. He gets 100% of the credit because he literally took all but the 2600 troops required to support the withdrawl, out of Afghanistan 2 days before Biden was sworn in. TRUMP left the “billions of $$$ in armaments” before Joe was even sworn in. Here we are 7 years later and you guys are still spewing the same lies that have been debunked for YEARS.

    Thats weird it took you over a year to blame the Russian invasion of Ukrain on Biden. I would have thought you would have done it 15 min after they invaded…..you guys are getting slow….
     
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    i thought i read somewhere that you were in IRAQ in 2003 or 2004 with US army .. oh yea you were telling me 500 women raped by Uda and Quasy so America had to send 130k troops to kill those two boys.... and you didn't know who was Secretary of Defense at that time?
     
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    Your hate of Trump owns you. Your emotions control you. Trump is a good guy, just old. But Biden is older so that means nothing to you. I still woner what it is that makes you hate Trump so.
     
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    Ok.. so a cowardly "tail between the legs" run away doesn't embarrass you. Ok... its the norm for the democrats... we get it.
     
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    Is that the physiological conclusion MAGA supporter came up with that majority Americans don’t vote for Trump because they hate Trump?

    Well , I actually love Trump . he gives Democrats easy win.


    GOP lost special election in 2017

    GOP lost Mid-term election in 2018

    GOP Lost Presidential election in 2020

    GOP lost special election in 2021 and lost 2 Senate position in ruby red state in GA.

    GOP lost Senate and to GOV in mid-term 2022 election. Red wave became oh well.

    GOP lost special election in 2023 – In Wisconsin , Liberal judge won state wide election by 200k. in Wi , President don’t win by more then 30K vote.
     
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    Coming back from Afghanistan was not embarrassing.


    You know what is embarrassing – When President of The United State tells the world “ we are in imminent danger if we don’t go to war In Iraq”. And then we find out we never ever should have been in Iraq.

    You know what is embarrassing – When Secretary of State goes to UN and demonstrate dropping a “Drop” of WMD in a glass of water and tell the world “ saddam has these WMD and we must go and get them or we are in imminent danger” , We go to Iraq and find out Saddam didn’t have any WMD, Saddam were not imminent danger to us.

    You know what is embarrassing – When 20 years later with all the facts in front us, yet many Americans thinks going to a unnecessary war which killed almost 5000 Americans and over 130k Iraqis was justified.
     
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    Trump had very little to do with the cowardly retreat from Afghanistan. Biden was in office for OVER SEVEN MONTHS before the cowardly fiasco. OVER SEVEN MONTHS. That's longer than it took to go from total peace through the planning and preparation and successful invasion of Guadalcanal. Trump's plan for withdrawing from Afghanistan ended when the Taliban failed to establish a ceasefire with the Afghan government. At that point it ENDED... it was over. And that was OVER SEVEN MONTHS before Biden's cowardly skidaddle. Biden had OVER SEVEN MONTHS to plan, prepare and execute the withdrawal. Instead, he turned it into a cowardly retreat that abandoned Americans and allies, armed the Taliban and emboldened Putin to invade the Ukraine.
     

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