The majority of marriages 'worked' because the wife had no recourse but to accept what ever was thrown at her . .verbal, physical and sexual assault were not crimes as they are now .. but it doesn't occur to you that divorce rates went up because women now had an escape from an abusive husband .. but of course that doesn't fit your rose tinted glasses at all. You may see the world as a toilet but that is based upon your own pre-conception, while it is not perfect it is certainly better than it was 70 years ago.
Not to my personal knowledge. Abuse was as frowned upon in our community 60 years ago as it is now. It will not be tolerated.
Yeah those family values where daddy taught son it was ok to slap mummy around a bit and that women only had a few purposes, to give birth and keep the house clean, but hey that was ok just so long as the public image was maintained. You seem to forget that physical abuse was a crime in a marriage, but was most often ignored by officials until it gained media attention in the 70's. Marital rape was not illegal in the US prior to the 70's - "The legal history of marital rape laws in the United States is a long and complex one, that spans over several decades. Prior to the mid 1970s, marital rape was not a crime. Many United States rape statutes formerly precluded the prosecution of spouses, including estranged or even legally separated couples" This is what you wish to return to.
I'm sure it happened, but no more then than now, but it was not common in my young life. I see a lot now, but not then. I don't want to return to your vision of yesteryear and I think it is no better today. In my young day men were trained to respect women and their wives, so you can get off your high horse and stop trying to paint a picture that does not relate to my life.
Were they? Look at those advertisements from the 1950's - and again you are basing a whole society on you own personal remembrances. This is not deduction but world view bias
When you base an argument on your own personal experience without bothering to actually research the facts then there is no argument at all.
Not being American and having google selectively choosing .au sites it would be easier for you to actually support your statement with some statistical facts. I can show however that there has been a diminution
I didn't get into an argument based on anything other than my personal experience. You tried to make it more. I simply do not believe all of what you are saying. I based my opinions on my personal experience. I am a psychologist/counselor and it seldom comes up in a session. What I do see is a lot of hostility on both sides, and if the one gets hostile, the other tends to follow suit. But believe what you will, I didn't come here to argue, but rather to express my opinions. - - - Updated - - - That shows personal crimes going down. Thanks for the graph. BTW, since you alluded to the "fact" that marriages mostly break up because of abuse, (something I said several posts ago was wrong) why do we have so many millions of divorces than personal crimes in families?
Bull...that is just bull. You will never understand abortion like I do....first off you do not work in the field and second you HAVE NEVER HAD ONE. I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH STATISTICAL DATA and STUDIES you come up with...to say that someone who has gone through it personally...that their experience does not contribute is just ignorant. Have you ever been a Navy Seal? NFL football player? Plastic Surgeon? Could you say you know more than they do about their experiences? Honey you can research till the cows come home and you will never grasp this subject. - - - Updated - - - And who are you to judge? And you have no bias??????
Oh this woman looks like she is hating that spanking....LOL Today this is slap and tickle...condoned by the left...cause they are relative humanists....they don't believe in a right or wrong.
You are right. But today...our society does not stand on family values like it did back then. Anything goes and is accepted. A child does not need a mother...or a father...the traditional family went out the window. Sex is god today. And god is out. And with God went morality. Sex sells and ya better be politically correct or else. You are not allowed to challenge the LEFT...or you are called names. They say the RIGHT, Conservatives are bigots and judgemental. They judge.....but thats ok....not so for us. Abortion they champion, gay marriage, group marriage....more and more is being permitted. Can you imagine in 50 years what life will be like in the Unites States?
You or correct! I think I will go take a nap instead of getting wrapped around the axle over people who don't know any better.(or want to know better)
You can speak for God... It's incredible that pro-lifers can be so arrogant as to claim to know what God thinks.
Yep a god that condones slavery, a god that tells us to kill others (even our own family) if they don't believe in him, a god that allows the raping of a virgin as long as the rapist pays for it and marries her, a god that condones stoning of people for adultery .. There are 613 laws/commandments in the bible .. how many do you follow, or are you just another a la carte Christian picking and choosing the bits that fit. Thankfully we are becoming more educated and moving away from the need to believe in fairy stories.
Weeelll, let's face it they share that belief with all of the false prophets, shamans and charlatans throughout history
I can assure you it is s/he who supports abortion for who I have loads of loathing. As long as you don't recognize an innocent baby in the womb you will continue to support their murder.
Only abortion does not kill babies - but yes there might or might not be a potential baby - just the same as sex might of might not result in pregnancy
I don't have to prove crap to you or anyone else on the thread. Suffice it to say I believe it is murder and I could care less what you think or believe. I am not in the habit of catering to people who support murder.
