Actually as far as I understand it we are allowed to criticize each other's beliefs but we may not criticize the person personally. Like I can't say "Well you're stupid for saying that." You can say, "That's a stupid statement/stupid belief" though. *shrugs* It's still pretty on the line but I think the mods are clear when it comes to how we may respond to one another.
The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb," which means it is human, but not necessarily a human being.
It also clearly states that abortion is exempt from that law, so should we discard the part of a law that doesn't suit our own opinion .. it is not different to the homicide law that exempts, executions, war & self-defence. The Federal Unborn Victims of Violence act is a secondary offence and is more about the attack on the woman who has not given her consent to the attack. If as a certain poster proclaims this law proves that from the moment of conception there is a "person" then it would have created the collapse clause of roe vs wade to kick in .. why has that not happened?
Being on the edge isn't breaking the forum rules .. the MODS here do a pretty good job of handling things and if you do feel that a comment goes overboard then you can always report the comment to the MODS, they will read it and make a decision based on the rules, if they agree the post is deleted.
No I didn't say that at all. If I was to call you a religious freak with the mind of an ant (which I am not) then that is bigotry. If I was to say you opinion is deluded and wrong, then that is not bigotry. the first is a personal attack on you, the second is an attack on your opinion. If you were to take your meaning of bigotry to its climax then every single time someone posts a different viewpoint to another it could be claimed as bigotry .. debating would die.
Bigotry is the act of intolerance, not just the insult to a person who holds a different view. Stating a viewpoint is not bigotry; reflecting intolerance of a viewpoint is. It takes on a different meaning when it is not just a view point but a belief. Actually the best way to debate an issue is to talk about all the points in which you believe rather than attacking another's belief.
Well we can agree to disagree . .personally I leave it up to the MODS to decide when the mark has been overstepped that is, after all, one of the reasons they are here.
Disagreement and Counter-opinion do not equate to bigotry. Overly sensitive people do not make for acceptable debate in my opinion, as they become whiny and aggressive. Basically they need to stay out of the kitchen.
The Mods may like or dislike it, but I personally prefer the proper way to debate if debate is to be. Extol the virtues of an opinion and let the other guy be the jerk.
It has nothing to do with whether the MODS like or dislike it, they apply the rules of the forum. Debating is basically a structured argument against the opinion of another.
Maybe! We seldom see debate on this forum, rather we tend to see attempts to shoot the opponents down with no structure. Real debate is more a process of telling the good points of one's side of the issue.
Tell me about it. I've tried to debate as if I were talking to adults and on occasions have had good debates, but most of the time its the same shrieking going on with no real purpose than to try and derail and degrade the opposition. - - - Updated - - - Tell me about it. I've tried to debate as if I were talking to adults and on occasions have had good debates, but most of the time its the same shrieking going on with no real purpose than to try and derail and degrade the opposition.
