Is Fauci the Patron Saint of health or the Antichrist of a worldwide plague?

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You do know that epidemiology requires frequent testing of populations to determine useful data. Oh, you don’t believe in testing. So much for that woo woo.
     
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    Why would I order pizza? I’m 30 miles from the nearest pizza joint. They aren’t going to deliver. I make my own pizza. I live with my wife and we work most of the time anyway. Staying on my property in isolation isn’t a big deal because my business/property consists of thousands of acres. My wife’s parents and sister’s family live halfway across the state. They were self quarantined as well. They came to visit some. They filled with fuel at home and then filled out of my bulk tank before going home so they didn’t have to stop for gas.

    I have no desire to hang around people not intelligent enough to understand what kind masks are effective or people who can’t understand self quarantined individuals are not infected. I stayed home to avoid the craziness as much as to avoid the pathogen. Conversations like this make me so thankful I was prepared for something like this. I would not want to trust my safety to people like you. No offense, it’s not really your fault you were given bad advice and very little education on things you could do to protect yourself. But you are capable of learning now. I suggest you do learn about things like quarantine. It may save your life someday. It sure made my life more enjoyable during the pandemic. Toilet paper shortage? Not here. Grocery shortage? Not here. No reason to go out in public and risk infection. All the amusement I needed just watching ya’ll through PF stumble around like the blind leading the blind. Amusing but also sad because a lot of people have died who didn’t need to.
     
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    Testing has its place. I told you PCR testing is the best we have. It’s a marvelous technology I’ve touted on PF multiple times. It just has severe limitations. One limitation is it isn’t good at identifying contagious individuals. That’s just a fact we have to deal with.
     
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    I’ve answered the question repeatedly. You apparently are unable to grasp much of the intricacies of epidemiology.
     
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    False. We will all be exposed but most of us who are vaccinated will not get infected.
     
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    You have no way to know who was actually quarantined. So you can't know who might be infected.

    You are making yet another BS and trivial claim.
     
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    Nearly all vaccinated individuals will have at least an asymptotic infection at some point in their life unless we come up with better vaccines. Which we probably will. A nasally administered vaccine would be a good next step.

    You are going to have to start looking at Covid like influenza. Those annually vaccinated for influenza are not protected indefinitely from influenza infection. It’s just facts of virology and statistics.
     
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    LOL. Of course I know. We all did it for the express purpose of being able to interact. I don’t interact with people I don’t know if they actually quarantined or not when I’m self quarantined. That would defeat the purpose.

    You are digging again. Unbelievable.
     
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    Woo woo. You seem incapable of telling anything about epidemiology except to discredit testing, a prime way of determining whether infected people are present. It’s used now in all professional sports, the medical profession and many major corporations where any kind of interaction take place.

    Your posts are clueless. Just a pretense of science sounding words.
     
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    Until people actually take mitigation seriously that’s not happening. Your past indicate you have nothing to offer.
     
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    You’re wrong. Isolation is not just interacting with uninfected people. It’s not close interacting with ANYONE. It’s using masking and testing with any interaction. That’s something you claim you don’t do. SO you’re wrong about that.
     
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    Ha ha. You claim you’re in quarantine. That’s all you can slip under the door.
     
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    That’s hilarious. You have no way of knowing who is uninflected without testing. That’s a joke. Restricting your interaction with family members according to good epidemiological practices is not meant to eliminated infections. It’s done to minimize the spread over larger populations. Masking is still recommended as is testing. Your comments are so mistake prone.....justlike Tucker.
     
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    Sure, you agree with masking, for others but not yourself. It’s the topical, let the rest of society do the dirty work but “ I’m special.” and smarter then real science, not your made up woo woo.
     
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    And again, you have no idea......you use circular reasoning completely devoid of science. You magically know who is infected ? Still haven’t answered that one.
     
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    Look up civics and consult a text book on civics. It has everything to do with Govt. You can’t practice citizenship unless there is a governing body to begin with. It’s your responsibility as a citizen to become involved in the governing process. You mainly do that by being better informed and voting.
    In a democracy, the governing body is developed by the citizenry. That’s your introduction to civics
     
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    More made up stuff. I suppose if you quarantine yourself with infected people that would work. They tried that on cruise ships. It doesn’t work. You still can’t tell us how you determine who is infected. Try again.
     
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    As I said, right now it’s the best we have. But the numbers I quoted are factual. Before symptoms the likelihood of testing positive is under 50%. As I hope you know people are contagious before showing symptoms. This means PCR testing doesn’t identify presymptomatic infections. It’s just a fact.
     
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    But you never will take mitigation seriously. I’m trying to get you to and you won’t. You think social distancing is woo woo.
     
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    Nope. Self quarantined people can interact. Fact.
     
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    Self quarantined people are not infected.
     
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    Self quarantined are not infected because they have not been exposed to the pathogen.
     
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    Why would you quarantine with infected people? That’s dumb. Self quarantined individuals are not infected because they have not been exposed to the pathogen.
     
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    So far, you’re unable to tell us how you determine infected and un infected peoples.
     
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    Another uninformed statement. Infected people according to every medical research facility in covid, recommends that infected people be isolated.

    You still don’t know what quarantine means do you ?
     

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