Is Finland next?

Thank god for Putin for Uniting Europe into one big NATO force.

 

Interesting theory. I'm sure this would be a most welcome theory to express in Russia, should you wish to return to your blessed homeland.

If, of course, you change your opinion it wouldn't be safe for you to go there. Please stay safe, Jeanette.

 

Trump was arrogant, dismissive, and insulting to our NATO partners, and they chafed at being bitched at by him about how each one of them needed to MAKE THEIR AGREED-TO CONTRIBUTIONS TO MUTUAL DEFENSE!

Ooh, how my German friends loathed and despised Trump-picked ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell.... Oh, but NOW, that Putin has invaded Ukraine, just look at much Western Europe is changing its mind about defense -- overnight!

In Germany, it's especially amazing to see that even the newly elected, liberal-socialist 'coalition', led by the Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (SPD) is jumping headlong on the rearmaments bandwagon, announcing just yesterday that Germany is going to buy almost three dozen F-35 stealth fighter jets from the United States: https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-35-fighter-jet-government-source-2022-03-14/ .

So, in a way, Trump did sew the seeds for NATO partners to pull their heads out of their socialist asses and face the music coming from Russia!

 

I know you love to praise Trump at every turn, but NATO met in 2014 (3 yrs before Trump) and officially agreed to hit the 2% goal by 2024 and they were on track when Trump started whining about NATO Either way thanks to the Ukraine situation, they will hit the goal this year as opposed to 2024.

 

Unlike the US that supported ISIS and bombed the Syrian army on false flag chemical attacks when they were winning a battle to keep the war going on, Russia supported the leader they had elected and loved for his all inclusive society - something that distinguished Assad's Syria, from the rest of the nations in the Middle East.

Besides, other than Washington retaining ISIS in Syria's oil rich territory as an excuse to steal its oil and deprive Syria of its profits, Washington sanctioned the Syrians to deprive them of medicine and food, as well as killing over a million of their sheep and burning its wheat supply. This way the Syrians could be kept in perpetual poverty until they succumbed to Washington's wishes and control. So much for our respect for democracy and the sovereignty of nations.

Anyway Russia has been satisfying their needs and helping them, and to their credit, the Syrians are grateful - and like the Chechens, they are willing to show it with their blood.

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How dare you not do what we say,
for we will always get our way

with sanctions, lies,
that's how we play​

while basking in hypocrisy
and calling it democracy. - Jeannette

 

The Scandinavian nations are being very foolish and misguided, and setting the stage for their own destruction. But what will be will be.

As for the war in Ukraine, it goes a lot deeper than just stopping the genocide of Russians in Donbass. I read that a famed pharmaceutical industrialist and politician in Greece publicly apologized to Putin for his government's stance towards Russia. He said that he knows that Vladimir Putin is fighting the World Economic Forum for all of humanity. It's probably why they hate him so much.
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As a Christian, I was always against the World Economic Forum and it's One World Order (the Great Reset), since any control over others; (something we're experiencing with the media lies), is a hindrance to people's freedom of thought, and forces them all into a similar mold. People were created to be different and cultures are different and each one should be respected as such.

Anyway I came across this on Youtube for anyone who is interested to know what the war is all about.. He gives a great explanation and backs it with facts,

 

The fact that the German government is about to spend an extra one hundred billion on its military has nothing to do with what Trump's complaints, which he seemingly never really understood himself. The agreement was to meet the 2% target by 2024, someone should have explained that to him back then. Russia's attack has simply changed geo-politics completely. Even a few days before the invasion, very few thought this would really happen. Who would have thought that the Kremlin would lie so blatantly (?). Putin has definitely united western countries in a way never seen before, and whether Finland and/or Sweden consider full NATO member status or not is entirely up to them, not the war criminals in Moscow. On the contrary, this invasion clearly shows that Sweden and Finland are absolutely correct redarding their considerations.

 

Thanks OBAMA, and thanks also for letting Crooked Donnie whine loudly to claim the cred.

 

Jeannette, you know I could fall in love with you.
If I haven't told you this so far, well ... now you know.

But I'm an Italian man: Italian men fall in love today and forgive tomorrow!
[Anyway generally among Italian men and Russian women ... it works].
Anyway, let's go back to the point of discussion.
If we have lost our former good friend Vladimir Vladimirovich [actually there are still good diplomatic contacts, we will see] we are getting good feedback from China about the new Silky Way [which arrives in Italy: regardless the American complaints, our country is in the Chinese Silky Way].

China wants that the Silky Way develops into a kind of backbone of the EU import system [to import goods coming by train is absolutely the best option]. Ukraine is substantially along the Silky Way, so that China doesn't want that war. Nothing more simple than this.

On the other hand, China doesn't want Russia to stop: Russia is keeping NATO busy while Beijing is preparing a party at Taiwan!

 

While all that makes sense- when a dictator becomes seriously paranoid as Putin appears to have done, good sense is abandoned and fears take over- and stupid things happen.
His recent comments about "purification purging" of all those he perceives to be disloyal would seem a lot like the perception Hitler seemed to have. The fact that he has control of nukes would seem reason to remain very cautious.

 

I have to visit the Rocky Mountains.
Next time I'll be in US I could go trekking there.

Last time I was in NY, Wall Street, in the downtown of Manhattan.
Now, my luxurious Italian original "mocassino" [at NY it costs more than 1,000 US$ ] attracted a lot of attention.
I remember a broker observing me who told a coworker "he cannot be a wop, look at his shoes!".

Now, if in Manhattan they are all ragamuffins it's not a problem of mine! I'm Italian: I'm stylish.

Going back to Biden and Xi [what's it? A math parameter? Is that a surname? Mah ...].

The duration of the phone call was related to the matter of fact that Xi [a pragmatical communist] has had to understand the language of an Irish Catholic. That's not easy.

 

The best thing that could happen for every nation and leader involved in this botched invasion would be a quick victory for Ukraine, at least a tacit victory and the withdrawal of Russian forces.

IMO, It would certainly be a win for Biden. He should do everything he can to get the kinds of weapons systems needed to accomplish that mission into Ukraine ASAP.
It would probably also be the best possible result for Putin in the long run.

 

There's no "win" here for the Russkis now....especially the paranoid midget Putler....there's no "exit" or "off ramp" for him....or de escalation of any kind.....since it would mean certain death....but his days are definitely numbered afaic.

 

I do agree we should send as much equipment as possible, but Biden is being too timid and calculating even for my taste. And I have stated that we should in SF and SEALS as force enhancers to the conlict. Even with the 16k plus foreign fighters, Ukraine is lacking the personnell to effectively counterstrike and retake territory. Right now, if Russia leaves Ukraine, Ukraine rebuilding will be massive and the country will be in huge debt. Personally, Russia should pay for the rebuilding but I even doubt that can be agreed upon.

 

My Post #53 above was certainly not a praise-fest for Donald Trump... you may want to re-read it....

Truth? Neither Trump nor a totally useless, 'Redline'-disgraced putz like Obama got the other NATO partners to actually meet that 2% goal.

No... it's FEAR of Russia that gets a klatch of liberal coalition 'Greens' and other stooges, led since last December by the SPD, to make defense spending of such sudden paramount importance in Germany.

And if you know anything about the SPD, you know they'd MUCH rather throw billions of euros into the rat hole of even more 'social programs' than on the German Bundeswehr!

 

You do realize that almost the whole Donbass is under Russian and DPR control and have ceased to be part of Ukraine? There is no way that Vladimir Putin will allow the people living there to go under Kiev again, and suffer what they did for 8 long years. Donetsk and Lugansk have been recognized by Russia as independent Republics and I believe a referendum will be held in the Kerson region so they too can vote on whether they want to be free from Ukraine.

Since Kalensky the clown refuses to accept Russia's terms, and doesn't care how many people die, Russia is forced to continue its advance and free more territory. The only thing needed now for Russia and the DPR to block Ukraine off completely from the Black Sea is Odessa. The battle for the city has started.

Right now it's believed that 60 to 80 thousand troops are trapped in a cauldron in those areas and are begging Zalensky for help, but he said he can't because they're all needed to protect Kiev., The problem is that Azov is embedded in the inner cities, and how can you destroy them without harming the civilians? This means urban combat unless the Ukrainians surrender. The Chechens are pretty good at urban combat, this is why they're in Mariupol.

This video shows the indestructibility of the Russians. When the Ukrainians piled up the corpses, one of them decided to smoke a cigarette.

https://twitter.com/Hetreeli/status/1504445439571120132?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1504445439571120132|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.defencenet.gr/defencenet-tv/917208_pos-mporei-na-skinothetithei-syllogi-soron-roson-stratioton

 

If Russia is so indestructible, why is Russia taking so bloody long to capture Ukraine. Second, the only terms that should be accepted is for Putin to go to each and every Ukrainian, bend over, kiss his own arse, and ask for forgiveness. Otherwise, de guello for all officers and senior enlisted should be the order of the day and every day until Russia is driven from Ukraine.

 

You may be right about Putin, but never underestimate the ability of human beings handicapped by overconfidence to recover once the handicap is removed.

Russia and the Russians need a strong effective military deterrent to discourage China from annexing more of Russia.

 

The only good thing for Russia that has come out of this foolish invasion is the exposure of the underlying weakness and vulnerability of your military.
Better now than when China finally decides to carve off another thick slice of Russia

 

No one said anything about Obama, although the 2% commitment at The NATO Summit in Wales was announced during his time in office. Ukraine was there as well. It was the 1st time ever they officially agreed to hike spending to 2%.

Yes, it was because of Russia. NATO was created because of Russia.

 

You make an EXCELLENT point! Putin has assumed that the big link he has with China lies in sales of petroleum products and various raw materials which are available throughout many parts of Russia east of the Ural Mountains. BUT, what if Xi decides to simply take the oil fields around the Caspian Sea, east to Azerbaijan (or beyond)...? Then what would China really need Russia for...?

And the wealth of natural resources in Siberia? That would be in relatively easy grasp of Chinese forces as well....

And exactly who would come to RUSSIA'S aid...? Nobody in Europe -- that's for damned sure! India? Naw... India has its hands full dealing with both Pakistan and China, so India doesn't need to jeopardize its position by trying to come to Russia's aid. India buys Russian oil 'on the cheap' right now from Russia, but if China took over those oil fields, the Indians would simply buy the same stuff from China instead....

. "Friends for life"... (ending when you're dead).

 

Maybe. Russia has exposed the weakness of their military and maybe they should start worrying about countries like China taking advantage of it.

Who knew Russia's military was so overrated.....Russia obviously didn't know.

 

Russia’s ground forces are reminiscent of Saddam Hussein’s army. Even if they eventually defeat Ukraine’s military, the Russian army’s performance is a true humiliation.

 

The Baltic countries are in NATO Finland is not.

I seriously doubt Russia invades another country the damage done to them just from Ukraine is too much. No way they ever invade a NATO country.