Is homosexuality "normal"?

The word "normal" is extremely subjective, to the point where it's meaningless without context.

Well often times people attempt to force their opinions on one another.and that does cause issues. It's really occurring on both sides of it. I prefer a live and let live approach.

They know. People have been forcing their beliefs on gays for years.

I hear this a lot, "don't push it in my face" I am allowed to do that, you do need to accept it as normal. That is my opinion, if you don't want it pushed in your face get your face out of it. You actually put your nose in it willingly. Nobody put your face in it but you.

You didn't have to accept it before you posted a message, you don't have to accept it now, but if you continually jam your face in it you are going to be pushed back. Gay people have the right to free speech as well.

 

It's not the "free speech" people are irritated at it's the way you typically do it. Like 5 year old "look at me look at me I'm gay".

The only law I am for is for you homosexuals to adopt children.

 

The consensus seems to be that it is natural but not normal. I know it's not normal for me.

 

"NORMALLY", people acting outside the norm, don't expect the society to accept their aberration. That is if you desire anything not considered acceptable by the majority, they don't demand people change to their meaning or do they expect special consideration.

Sexual desire (turn on), is not a genetic end, rather a learned trait from with in your society. Some like chains and whips, some like teasing and some simply like attention. In my opinion, what's acceptable for public consumption, is up to the limits of the majority of the society they live in.

 

Well biologically, yeah perfectly normal. There isn't a missing chromosome, they aren't a subspecies, technically they are biologically identical to every other biologically normal person.

If they were growing horns or had two heads than maybe there would be a biological abnormality.

 

Okay. But PLEASE, accept that as your "opinion". Science does NOT necessarily agree with your claim.

Is a mouth on a 'penis' normal? Or... how about a mouth on a 'vagina'?

Even so, "normal" is about as subjective as one can get... where it pertains to what people think/believe it is.

Bottom line is that science defines all of that kind of thing in the most comprehensive ways.

 

Please... that is YOUR "opinion". It is what you believe or adhere to in YOUR thinking. The reality is that you cannot make that claim as an absolute truth. You have no scientific basis to support or prove what you are saying.

 

then you have the heterosexuals that do the look at me, look at me, I am heterosexual

in fact I am more likely to see that today then the homosexual doing so

but I wont put ALL heterosexuals or homosexuals down because some of both groups like to profess their love in public

 

As a straight man I have a question for those who think being gay is a choice

Do you remember what day you were given the choice to be straight or gay?

I sure don't

 

Using words like normal are dependent on what you are comparing it to. If you are comparing it to the population yes, homosexuality is not normal. However, the problem comes when people (some on the right), try and equate something like homosexuality not being normal compared to the rest of the population as something that is bad.

 

Right. Someone choosing their sexuality consciously... is almost exactly like someone choosing to LIKE a food (today) that they didn't didn't before.

If millions of people can say that they aren't 'attracted' to members of the opposite sex... then they aren't likely lying, confused or making it up. And they cannot just 'switch' that around, because you may not care for how they are.

 

Why do you equate something not being normal with something that is bad. It is not normal to be left handed, but that isn't a bad thing. It isn't normal to have red hair, but that isn't a bad thing.

 

Define "normal". Homosexuality exists in nature, and has been recorded in at least 150 animal species, including humans. I'd say that's normal.

 

This is the 21st century and homosexuality is normal. There is nothing wrong with it. It's American as apple pie.

 

Wrong.

There are people gay, straight, Left/Right who realize and accept that homosexuality is normal.

There are people who have seen (and practice) some of the things that heterosexuals do (having nothing to do with making a baby) is also "normal".

It seems a LOT of people (even in this discussion) don't really know what "homosexuality" actually is. And all too often, they don't want to accept what it truly is; they don't even really want to know. It's very obvious in how they express their opinions and beliefs.

Tell me how one CHOOSES or BECOMES "heterosexual"... and I'll buy your explanation of how someone happens to be "homosexual".

I understand that the answers from OPINION are subjective and nebulous... but truly, SCIENCE has THE BEST logical explanations one could digest. Those aren't based upon religion, personal likes/dislikes or political motivations (at least not any more than a layman spouting their personal moral or religious beliefs).

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Exactly!! We KNOW that it is, "normal".

People may not agree in their own thinking that is so... but that is on THEM, not gay people.

 

First of all I don't believe that homosexuliaty is something chosen or learned.

Second of all the definition of normal is:

The "typical" state of the population is heterosexual. Therefore when comparing homosexuality to heterosexuality, homosexuality is not normal in the terms of comparing it to heterosexuality since it isn't the "typical" state of people. Something not being normal is not a bad thing, nor does it excuse others to ostracize, insult, discriminate someone over, etc.

Remember what I said before, normal is subjective and depends on what you are comparing it to. homosexuality in a gay pride parade is normal when you compare it to heterosexual participants in gay pride parades.

 

Than yes it is the free speech that people are irritated with.

I don't think anybody has the right to adopt a child.

 

The most accurate way to put it simply is that homosexuality is not numerically normal but it is natural.

 

Well, nobody is normal because everybody has something that makes them not the norm, be their hight weight strength, sexuality, hair color, so on so fourth. So it's really the norm to not be normal. Thus the word is meaningless.

 

The term "normal" is too subjective to be used this way logically.



The "typical" state of the population is heterosexual.[/QUOTE]The typical state of human sexuality you mean. Because the typical state of the population is living, or breathing, or sleeping depending on the time of day. You really need to be specific when classifying things as normal. I would say as humans go it is normal for 2-5% of them to be homosexual.

Well, again, being that humans are all individuals in one way or another they don't fit the norm, thus the norm is abnormal rendering the term meaningless without context.

Excellent point

 

Okay, I'm not going to judge your intentions per se. This stuff gets pretty mushy when people talk about it overall.

In any case, I won't tolerate people attempting to paste the label "abnormal" onto a gay person... in order to designate them as less-worthy.

That is done a LOT here in this forum AND out in public where people meet. I admit, I'm defensive about it; for my sake and those who have suffered too much, for nothing.

People need to stop trying to marginalize and discriminate against homosexual people.

 

BINGO.

 

You have to set the context.

I think homosexuality is normal to a homosexual.
But homosexuality is not a norm in general society.

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I think the argument is that we're born that way.
Anything else would be a choice.


Not saying I believe it's a choice or not, nor do I care, nor does it matter in the scheme of things.

 

are you talking outside of the forum? If so you just proved me correct. As I stated Im fine with gays up until they affect me. If you want to push gayness in my face and attempt to force me to accept it as normal its going to steadily change my views on gays in general.
If you were talking about the forum, then I accept that as that's what we do here, we stick our noses in it because that's what we do here. In other words here it is acceptable but outside and unsolicited it is definitely not.

 

Chains and whips inside the bedroom is different than chains and whips in a sit down restaurant. Only the location has changed.