Is it moral for God to punish us?

I do not attack other theologies to establish mine.

I attack them because they are immoral.

As a Gnostic Christian, I am compelled to fight evil by love.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Fighting evil, to a Gnostic Christian, is a part of doing unto others as we would want done to us.

Regards
DL

 

Well fighting EVIL that way sounds great in THEORY......but I know from firsthand experience to fight evil....you must vanquish it.

And LOVE.....just is not an effective weapon.

AboveAlpha

 

And they never did learn how to get the Angel of Death to swoop down and take care of the enemies.

 

and in what way are religions other than yours immoral?

i think that you'e confusing fighting evil with love. you don't love people by attacking them.

 

Or any other Angel or maybe even an ArchAngel, to help out with a moral of goodwill toward men.

 

Exactly!

What some near death experiencers term..... The Void.... sure sounds like the Catholic Doctrine of purgatory!

If during your NDE you meet a bunch of deceased pets...… you have gone up past the void/ purgatory........... Your pets have a level of humility / love.... that doesn't fit in in the void.... at all!

If.......after I die.... I am too egotistical to meet with Canela and Blondie and Mick and Fluff...… then I am too egotistical to be in "heaven."

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/with-pets.html
Near-Death Experiences with Deceased Pets and Animals

 

We are working on it!!!!!!


http://www.britam.org/messiah.html

Messiah son of Joseph

The Two Messiahs. The Messiah son of Joseph and the Messiah son of David. The future leadership of the Lost Ten Tribes and the future reconciliation and re-unification with Judah



MOSHIACH BEN YOSEPH


by Yair Davidiy


The Two Messiahs

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I can do a half decent Elijah.......... I got a theory on how I may have participated in a significant "appeasing of the wrath of The LORD" event between 1990 to 1999..... when my then four year old son said to me......"Dad..... you're a tiger...… G-d laughed at the Devils and the Ghosts!"

..... Get G-d laughing........ and you automatically appease H-s wrath!

Now to get ......… stirred up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I have read that the fallen King of the Watchers Azazel..... used to be the ArchAngel of Hope..... but when he fell.... he became the fallen angel of Despair..........

....... when something along the line of Christianity is expanded into his dimension of space - time.... and when he accepts a certain offer on his behalf and returns fully to the G-d of Abraham/ HaShem/ YHWH....... then some of the mysteries will become clear...… and the atmosphere will be cleared out.... much as many gifted psychics have been reporting has been happening .... especially since 2012!

 

Whatever we see in the G-d of Abraham/ YHWH/ HaShem........ or for that matter in his rival..... Lucifer / The Accuser of the Brethren......… will automatically be aspects of our own nature that we are insecure about!

I personally see Lucifer......… as perhaps even being in the form of Pegasus........ and he may have gotten jealous after G-d formed The Word - Logos and 13 other Elohim.... 7 male... 7 female... according to what was shown to near death experience Aurora Ray Salome........

Lucifer...… has to be somewhat like Dr. Stanley Milgram..... and he knows that the only way to really test people is to get them to read their situation wrong.......

I met two fallen angels while taking too much Matol..... and the two that I met..... seemed to have real class...................... So no wonder YHWH/ HaShem has allowed them considerable power to present all of us with some troubling ethical questions to answer........

 

And thus....... the need for a Moshiach ben Ephrayim/ Yosef to precede....... Moshiach ben David who will have the luxury of peace......…

http://www.chabad.org/library/moshiach/article_cdo/aid/101679/jewish/The-Personality-of-Mashiach.htm

B. Mashiach In Every Generation

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Once a certain level of consciousness has been attained...… it is then possible to take that level of consciousness back into what will look like the past......… but it isn't.......... it will be new time lines........

 

Lucifer mentality = Stanley Milgram Ph. D. mentality......

 

Yup..... from 1990 to 1999......… I guess I was kind of wrestling with the much more ancient version of myself.............. The Man on The Throne as seen by near death experiencer Christian Andreason........

 

Dennis, I don't know where this is coming from, but I had an indication that maybe there are multiple throne rooms?

There was one that was day time and it was for the Earth, and there were angels there, but there was another throne room behind a gated doorway featuring the Moon and it was late evening or early morning there, where the sky was a orangish/pinkish hue. It was quite feminine in appearance but that room was empty when I saw it.

Could that be for the future? Or an indication that there are more than one aspect of God?

 

That is a brilliant question..... does this writing give you any idea of what the answer might be?

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...an-andreason-he-onto-something-important.html

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My guess is that there are seven billion thrones available on this earth at this time.......... but the thrones are more like levels of consciousness................ a homeless person can rise up and rise up and rise up..... and sit in a place of power over the nations...… and they might have little idea of how many angels and Elohim and Watchers and UFO's move.......... because of their words.... and even because of their thoughts and feelings.............

 

And for the record........ I do believe that you are correct that it is time for Messianic Gentiles/ Christians like myself....... to attempt to seriously answer some of the quite valid criticisms by Richard Dawkins Ph. D.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...t-richard-dawkins-ph-d-basically-correct.html

I hate to admit it but.... Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is basically correct!

 

Dennis I left a comment in your thread.

And your guess is as good as mine. Perhaps better because now-a-days when I find spiritual aspects of life that's usually the beginning paragraph of my next descent into madness...

 

I know what that is like....... it is heavy indeed!

You have already read about "Ruby" haven't you?

http://www.politicalforum.com/creative-corner/444300-ruby.html

Ruby.......

 

Infinite punishment for finite "crime"?

Oh, HELLS no!

 

Makes no sense does it... not unless this god is the god of illogicality.

 

And that's why I drink BEER.

AboveAlpha

 

Rev. 20:4
And I saw thrones (of Universal Christian authority) and they, (the 144,000 monks of Catholic monasticism: [Rev14:4]), sat upon them (Christianity mandated as the ONLY legal religion in the Empire, in 380AD), and (theocratic) judgment was given unto them (in the days of Catholic Monasticism):

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Only fools can deny that Reality is our lord and master.
Or maybe insane people can too.

 

And what could be more real than a BEER?

Insane is a relative term.

People who declared the earth was round were called INSANE.

Sometimes I feel like I am going insane because of everything I have going on in my head 24/7 365 and I am a LUCID DREAMER which means I know when I am dreaming in the dream and I can do whatever I want in the dream....change it....rewind it.....fast forward it....and I always recall it.

AboveAlpha

 

Sane people are so few that they never are recognized.
The people who were correct about a fact, like the spherical earth, for instance, might have been totally insane otherwise.
But, sanity about the earth was an advantage wasn't it?

 

As I said.....Sane....Insane....it's relative.

AboveAlpha

 

Sane people live in Reality.
That is oretty simple.

But they are less than 1% of the population according to Abraham Maslow, the father of Humanism and author of Actuality.