Is Roe v. Wade at Risk???

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I tend to use the language others use, so there were times we both referred to "it" (we didn't know the sex) as a "baby." So what? It wasn't a baby--we knew it and I suppose most people we talked to knew it wasn't a baby.
    I suppose you see women's rights the same way.
     
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    Not once have I seen from you any concern about the rights of women around their pregnancies.
     
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    They aren't.
    Non sequitur.
     
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    You quoted nobody and tagged nobody.
     
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    -They aren't what?

    -The part about serial killers was NOT a non sequitur, rather it was an analogy. You said that late term abortions were not a big problem, and I pointed out that serial killers are also not a big problem, which is illustrating the reality that whether or not something is common has no real bearing on whether or not one should oppose it. The fact that it is infrequent does not minimize opposition to late term abortions or serial killers. It is not as if someone is going to conclude that since serial killers are extremely rare, therefore I support their actions, just as late term abortions being rare is not going to lead one to therefore conclude that they support such a thing. The whole its infrequent thing does not invalidate opposition in any way.
     
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    This from a deputy prison warden friend of mine: "Do we lock up people so we can punish them or is locking them up the punishment?" You seem inclined to the former, he to the latter.
    :yawn:
    Relevance?
     
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    Yet you think that it was not a person. Interesting.
     
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    How are women controlling their pregnancies if they need the government's health system to have an abortion?
     
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    What rights?
     
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    There are very few third trimester abortions and most of them are done on fatally flawed fetuses. IMO, it's beyond cruel to force a woman to carry a fetus certain to die shortly after birth.
    I oppose most late-term abortions and all serial murderers. So what?
     
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    Their bodies are their business, not yours.
     
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    You really want someone to have to carry to term a baby she knows will not survive? How cruel!
     
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    Women need you to stop putting your snout in their business.
     
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    An acorn is not a tree
     
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    Darn tootin’

    no one other than the woman herself can truly understand why she is making the decisions she is
     
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    So if I were to go and stomp on a federally protected bald eagles egg. I’d be fine right?

    Hilarious we protect eggs but not babies.
     
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    Something to the effect of 95% of all abortions are done for birth control. Has nothing to do with rape, health or incest.
     
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    Your ethics However a bald eagle is endangered humanity is not so I will file this one under “false equivalence”

    A better analogy is this

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/feat...gle-growing-number-abandoned-embryos-n1040806

    Got an answer for that little dilemma?
     
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    Got research? Because I HAVE seen the research
     
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    I'm not. If elective abortion was banned, it would have nothing to do with me!
     
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    But who cares if the bald eagle is endangered? The egg isn’t a life or a bald eagle. It’s just some cells right?

    You’re referring to a scientific process of freezing embryos for potential further use. Not sure what an embryo in a lab has to do with our discussion. The embryo is not alive because there are no biological function occurring.
     
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    A survey of more than 2.4 million aborting women performed by the states of Florida, Louisiana, Minnesota, Nebraska, South Dakota and Utah during the years 1996 to 2020 gives us an accurate estimate of the number of “hard case” abortions, since these are the numbers that abortion clinics must report in official documents to these states:

    • 1.14% are done to save the life or physical health of the mother.
    • 1.28% to preserve the mental health of the mother.
    • 0.39% in cases of rape or incest.
    • 0.69% for fetal birth defects, or eugenics.
    • 3.50% for all the hard cases combined.
    • 96.50% of all abortions are therefore performed for social or economic reasons.
     
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    Did you have a point?
     
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    Thank you for not linking to the source and since it is a so called “pro-life” site I doubt the validity of the results

    https://www.hli.org/resources/why-women-abort/
    They are more than a bit judgemental because the criteria for a non “hard case” abortion relies only on their own criteria
    it is ALWAYS better to go to the original source material which is from the Guttmacher Institute And the survey the site linked to is from 2004
     
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    No I am talking about the thousands of frozen embryos not used and about to be discarded
     
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