Is Systemic or Institutional Racism still a thing?

It would cost us less than what we pay now and it would effectively end poverty. There is no perfect solution, but, I find it interesting that the Left refuses offers to end poverty.

 

Any Institution that declares itself to be systemically racist should be immediately reported to the EEOC for investigation.

 

I'm not optimistic. People who get free money will want more free money.

I'd be open to it if it was conditioned on monitored public service.

 

If we're spending more now and you don't have that, how is the current system better?

 

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The right likes to exaggerate the effect things like college grants to blacks or preferential hiring has on whites, the victim card, which is next to zero. Correcting the damage done to an entire race by past and present practices cannot be done free of charge white people.

 

Victim my ass, it's a legitimate complaint.
You want to force "equality" on everyone at the cost of others who had nothing to do with the inequality to begin with.

You support institutional and systemic racism.

I take my happy ass to work for 40 hours and pay my taxes, but I'm sure if you had it your way I'd probably be fired so they could hire a black person instead.

So if a white person does not get the job that has no effect on them right?

 

You certainly make a lot of false assumptions. Any member of a race/ethnicity can be racist and your assumption that a racist thought makes one a racist is ridiculous. Everyone could be classified a racist if that were true. Saying "This kind of mental garbage is systemic, yeah, even institutional on the Left," is the kind of hyperbole that is systemic on the far right and just bigoted ignorance....then it's on to systemic racism.

It never ceases to amaze me the complete lack of empathy the right has for African Americans. They generally say it's their "culture" holding them back. After three centuries of slavery and one century of rights denied, prevented from seeking power, wealth or education I would say the dominate culture had something to do with shaping their culture. But hey, white people don't need to take any responsibility for them having double the poverty rate, although its been shown through studies that hiring is still biased (with exactly the same resume), home loans and appraisals are racially biased (BTW home ownership is the number one way the middle class and below accumulates wealth). The right has in response rationalizations and denial.

Then another tangent, giving money to those in poverty. Like basic income experiments going on now that would dissolve a lot of programs for people in poverty, which is okay, but I can see a lot of criticism of that especially from those on the right and it does nothing to heal social inequities like home loans, criminal justice system......the point of the thread.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...gap-in-home-appraisals-has-doubled-since-1980

 

Thanks for the selective reading but it goes on... “Yes, individual bias is definitely affecting these things, but it’s actually a structural issue, across different appraisers who have different backgrounds, and in different counties. We’re seeing this inequality across the board, really demonstrating that it is deeply embedded in the ways and the methods of appraising.” So, differences in home values between white and black home owners has nothing to do with race?

 

My assumptions are valid, your claim is unsupported.

You fabricating positions and attributing them to me.

It is, this wave of racist filth is being poured out on this country and it's all coming from various areas of the Left. I'm sure there is a sensible remnant within the Left that needs to loudly speak up and rebuke this insanity, but, we aren't really hearing from them, are we.

More fake news. We aren't the ones running the failing cities and schools where they are being exploited and gunned down, Dems are.

More fake news, I said no such thing. If you have a beef with another, take it to them, this post of yours is addressed to me.

Drop your racist crap. I fulfill my duty to my fellow citizens without regard to their immutable characteristics, they are just my fellow Americans and their blood is red, just like mine.

If you have any specific examples, and you have standing, haul their asses in to Court, we don't put up with that kind of crap in this Great Nation.

Fake News, This NATION has a rational response, an effective Court System where these kinds of controversies are resolved. Until you show quality courtroom evidence of actionable racial injustice by a specific entity against a specific person, you are essentially just making noise. That's not a denial, that's a sensible response to an unsubstantiated smear. If you want more specific acts of assistance to some particular group, go engage in it. Don't waste your time here.

 

So go sue the white race. I really don't care, and this is getting boring. We've acknowledged a zillion times here that there are disparities in appraisal results, but that even your article's authors don't really know the reason it happens. Saying "it's racism" is about as convincing as Jussie's MAGA story.

Or did you believe that, too?

 

The first sentence is false. After my parents passed, my sibling and I sold their house for a tidy sum which I used to invest making more wealth.
Speaking of WW2, the number one way to accumulate wealth and pass it on to the next generation is home ownership. Here is what happened to Black WW2 vets.

 

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The "entire group" didnt have rights taken away. Not all blacks were enslaved. Having the same skin color as those who were is irrelevant. Graph accumulated wealth for blacks and whites and you would have two bell curves, mostly overlapping each other with the black curve shifted to left of the white curve. With many blacks with more wealth than most whites. And yet you want the help for all those with black skin and none for those with white skin. Its racial discrimination.

 

Your article opens with: "It was 1949".

Have you gazed at a calendar lately? That was 72 fricken years ago. That you have to go back 72 fricken years ago to support your point demonstrates the very good work we have done on this front. If you see more to do, why, get to it!

 

It took the Republicans killing 30% of the Military Aged Democrats to finally end slavery in this nation, and we lost a hell of a lot Military Aged Republicans as well, but, the brutal price was paid and we forced Democrats to give up slavery, a hundred and fifty six years ago. But, the same Dems who run the Blue Cities, presiding over killing zones, are going to lecture the rest of us? When they are blocking anti slavery measures, not of slavery of 156 years ago, but SLAVERY TODAY? The gall of some folks.

SLAVERY IN THE 19TH CENTURY, STILL BAD TODAY. SLAVERY NOW, NOT EVEN BAD TODAY. Demented Biden's State Department Gives Corporate Excellence Award to Patagonia, Who Uses Chinese Slave Labor.

Patagonia uses cotton produced by slaves in Xinjiang, not 156 years ago, but right now, today.

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Demented Biden's State Department gave them the honor because these clowns claimed that they "represent American values in the way they do business."

You can't think too little of the Biden WH. Biden's Administration is pushing lawmakers to block the that prevents slave produced goods from being traded on US markets. Dems have a history of blocking these efforts. Other companies using slave produced goods also work with Democrats to block these laws, well-known companies like Nike and Apple who claim to be oh so Woke!

It's weird how all these various Leftists pimp for the Lying Slavers of Beijing. But, yeah, when you notice folks looking at you in disbelief as you folks lecture us about slavery... yeah, it's pretty unbelievable.

 

Could you define specifically what that structural issue actually is?

 

And I've known siblings who have inherited a great bunch of wealth only to squander it within a year to be broke again. It all matters to the individual to have enough common sense to hang on to wealth.

Know what the percentage is of lottery winners who go broke after winning millions? 70 percent. If you want to be well off, ya gotta earn it. The past doesn't help you make smart choices in life.

Instead of bitching about what everyone else has handed to them, earn your own wealth like lots of piss poor disadvantaged people do each year. If you are poor, black or otherwise...that doesn't mean you have to stay poor. We do not need to adopt unfair advantages to coddle black people like they are incapable of achievement in the united states.

 

Or be content with what you have.

Or start a revolution.

Do anything but gripe.

 

And what are those 'current' practices?

 

We undervalued her house.

Actually, you guys did. I was bream fishing at the time.

 

The differences would still exist if the race of the home owners was never known. That's because it's ALWAYS about money. Real Estate Agents will always lowball according to the likelihood of that figure being accepted. If the home owner shows themselves to be a pushover, then that 'weakness' will be exploited. It has nothing to do with the colour of their skin, and everything to do with their desperation and/or ignorance. We all have an obligation, as vendors, to be armed and ready for these sharks. Don't wait til you're desperate to sell, don't go in ignorant, do your due diligence, and know the market value of your area like the back of your hand. Selling a property takes months of research - just as much as buying does. Only a fool sells without having done any homework - and you know the old saying, "a fool and his money are soon parted".

 

Houses are valued by independent appraisers according to the market.

 

Well you see that's the problem, you caught a mess of bluegill stumpknocker and crappy that them black folks was going to eat.

Bet you even went down in the hood and dug their worms didn't you?