Is Trump a Fascist?

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Fascist or not?

  1. YES

    26.8%
  2. NO

    50.0%
  3. No, he just suffers from untreated Narcissistic Personality Disorder

    26.8%
  4. No, he's just a con man

    17.9%
  5. Maybe so

    5.4%
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  1. ToughTalk

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    Democrats are the Fascists evil dictators.

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM2os15S5/

    Hungary leader.
    "The Democrats try to convince you and force you how to live.."

    And he's right.
     
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  2. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL-- That is a classic move: citing Viktor Orbán, to support your argument that it is not Trump but, rather, all Democrats, who are the Fascists. Could you not find a good quote, from Putin or Kim Jong Un, as well?
     
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    Reich thinks anyone who disagree with him is a fascist. As do most liberals.

    Reich is a dope.
     
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  4. ToughTalk

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    If Putin wants to be authoritarian on Russia...that's Russia's problem. Don't care. Same with the other two. It's not for the US to decide how other countries wish to govern. Obran is stating that between the two parties, it's the Democrats who shove their moral righteous bullshit onto other world leaders.

    Own it.
     
  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys that were convicted of seditious conspiracy were being manipulated by the deep state! Dios mio.
     
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    Or maybe you drank the TFG Koolaid and are thirsting for more. TFG is a fascist. Worse, he's incompetent. I get that his message is attractive because it's simple. But simple solutions often aren't the best answer to complex problems.

    It's far more likely TFG is responsible for Jan. 6 than not. Apply Occam's razor. There are far fewer moving parts in a TFG plot than a Democrat one. As for why he lost his bid to remain POTUS, possibly for life, apply Hanlon's razor. It's easier to explain it with incompetence on his part than it is to introduce a Democrat frame with malice aforethought.

    Your gullibility and willingness to jump when TFG snaps his fingers are endangering the Republic. I think you should stop.
     
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  7. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Au contraire mon frere, one can have narcissistic personality disorder and have it act out in a fascist way. By Reich’s criteria he is acting out in a fascist way. He may not have any goals beyond staying in power and receiving the adulation of his MAGA zombies by telling them anything they want to hear like the Big Lie, but how he is doing that fits a pattern. He is fighting for his chosen people (MAGAs). The weaponized judiciary is attacking him to destroy “you”. He is encouraging violence.
     
  8. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Your evidence is a racist complaining about being called a racist.....so that's how you roll.
     
  9. ToughTalk

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    Aww I'm sorry if other leaders have a perception that it's the democratic party who tries to shove their moral values unto other countries...but that's just the reality

    Not every country wants to have your demanded diversity or trans bullshit.
     
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  10. edna kawabata

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    Or the races mix.
     
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    I understand they were convicted for allegedly thinking a small handful of guys could over-throw the USA government, which is absurd. Under common law, you're not even supposed to arrest someone for trying to do something that really isn't even possible.
    The only evidence they had? An informant testified that they smiled and nodded to each other knowingly.
    The Judge also allowed racist comments some had made in social media entered into evidence. It didn't further anyone's knowledge of the guilt or innocence of the charges against the defendants. It just prejudiced the jury against the defendants.
    That this can happen in a free country is horrifying.
     
  12. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So Cletus should not be arrested for trying to knock over Fort Knox with a squirt gun because he's stupid?
    You're saying they were not convicted on the evidence because you were there.
     
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    No but maybe put him in a mental institution.
     
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    You beat me to it!
     
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    How did this "incompetent" person preside over an economy with growing wages relative to inflation for the 1st time in generations? Keep us out of any new wars, no matter how many false flags they planted in Syria? Just lucky? Trump didn't weaponize the deep state. He didn't collude with private businesses to censor the news, or fill it with lies and misdirection. He didn't get people fired for not taking the clot shot. That was all your guys.
    In what way do you see him as trying to be totalitarian? Even if he stole the election, Trump did turn the White House over to Biden. No shots were fired. We were told a Trump presidency would mean WW3 and a great financial depression. Nope. Biden is the one doing this. I wonder if he loses, will it be Biden that uses military force to seize and hold power.
    The most pro pol speech I've ever heard, by accident. Mike then goes on to describe things that in reality, didn't happen.
     
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    I don't think he's a fascist per say but I think his malignant narcissistic personality disorder leads him to be a great fascist. So, hand glove, glove hand.
     
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    I wasn't trying to be constructive and I didn't cry when you didn't take the criticism.

    I was mocking you.

    Now I'm going to delete all this extemporaneous crap you posted to show you how little your crying means to me.
     
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    Why should I, or any American, trust Viktor Orbán's word, or opinion, on this?
     
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    Sorry, I'm not quite certain what happened to my prior reply.

    Biden's doing this now. It would seem it's not really that difficult.

    What new wars is the US fighting? I've read no casualty reports referring to enemy action vs. Americans.

    No one did. The Deep State is a figment of your imagination.

    I'm a big fan of businesses being able to hire whomever they pleas and serve the clients they want. If that means adhering to a dress code, so be it. Besides, TFG was POTUS during that period. Why didn't he do something?

    A coup attempt/insurrection is a good indication. But in reality, I think both parties are authoritarian. Neither is interested in preserving freedom. both are in the same business (and it IS a business):gaining and preserving power for tthemselves. This is antithetical to freedom for the people.

    The election was not stolen.


    Really? I seem to remember a young woman being fatally shot in the neck during TFG's attempt to retain the White House.

    The military is still apolitical IMO. I doubt that it will participate in a coup this cycle.

    Sorry, your video link is broken.

    Wow, that sure was a lot to unpack.
     
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    First off, that is a poor excuse you give, for hypocrisy:
    1) You criticize my arguments (in general), but claim that your piss poor example of an argument against me, was not actually your own attempt at an "argument"-- despite my showing you that, in fact, you had offered one.
    2) One of your criticisms is that my argument wasn't "constructive;" and my pointing to how your own post was the opposite of being constructive, is answered by your saying that you hadn't been trying to be constructive. So, in other words,
    you don't find it necessary, or even important, that a post be constructive, despite your criticizing me, for not being constructive. While the thought behind your comments is more superficial than this, I will ask you, anyway, to consider what would then prevent me from answering your criticism, the same way as you just have: saying that 'I wasn't trying to be constructive?"

    Secondly, I had never claimed that you had cried, so it seems like you were really speaking to yourself, when you'd written that part.
     
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    I'm not talking about capitalism. I'm talking about corporatism. What, in your opinion, is the justification for the legal establishment (ie: the govt) allowing to exist; the concept of the corporation- a legal 'person' that exists only on paper? Because if it werent for 'the authorities' recognizing such a farce as a legitimate entity, this would be universally recognized as nothing but a scam.
     
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  23. Chickpea

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    Are you opposed to LLCs as well? Not bashing, just curious.
     
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    Depends. If, say, 'Chemicals LLC' can dump toxic waste into your water supply and get away with just a fine instead of the responsible human parties going to prison, then yes, I'm opposed to 'LLC' status as well.

    Any fake legal entity that exists as a scapegoat to shield criminals from meaningful punishment for their crimes is a big problem.
     
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    That corporations should be able to exist, and that they should be considered identical to a person, and be entitled, in their corporate selfhood, to all the same rights, as each of the people who operate or govern that corporate structure, are two different things.
     

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