Islam spreads to South America

Ah, cultural diffusion. Always happens, don't try to fight it. Go with the flow.

 

I choose the path of Crazy Horse and Tecumseh. Resistance until death.

 

Well, go against what thousands of years of history tell you will happen.

 

Actually we were allied with the former Egyptian government and the Saudi's.

The Ironic thing is that those countries helped fund the 9/11 attacks and Iraq, which the Bush Administration wanted to blame for it had nothing to do with it.

 

There will be many scalps on my lodgepole.

The only thing I can say for certain is that America will be severely weakened. So weakened in fact that it will be overtaken and surpassed. That in turn means that the average standard of living will decline in this country. I think the process is called "Sowing Dragon's Teeth."

 

If trouble were money America would have lots of friends.

 

LOL. Do you know how many times I've heard the "mistranslation" line ? And for how many years ? Oh about 1,000 times for the past 10 years. No there's no "mistranslation". Islam's Koran preaches hate, murder of "infidels", pedophilia, wife beating, and all the other vile things I mentioned.
As for the defensive line, LOL, was the 477 years of conquest (before the crusades began to stop them) of Asia Minor, southern Europe, and north Africa all invaders of Muslim' countries ? No it was exactly the opposite. It was Muslims traveling hundreds of miles attacking peaceful people on 3 continents. The same has occured ever since then and continues today.
Want to challenge sura 4:34, and try to tell us it doesn't say that husbands should beat their wives ? Want to call it a mistranslation ? LOL.

Here's some poll information that completely refutes your absurd statement "90% of Muslims beleive that the extremeist version of Islam that people like Osama Bin Laden taught was a wrong".

http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

 

English is one of the worst languages in the world for translating ancient text into. English 1, 2 or maybe two meanings for most words. Most ancient languages have alot more, and it can the bible, Quran, and Torah are filled with mistranslations and misinterpitations of what the books actually read like in their original languages.

 

Right now people think South America is mostly Christian, but it's not. Mostly Christianity is just an appearance. Christianity in the Andes, for example, is still mostly just old Incan religion with the trappings of Christianity pasted on top. The same will true of Islam.

 

Which translations of the Koran have you read??????

 

It does not refute it, though I would agree that 90% is exaggerated. Plus, the poll does not support the idea that most Muslims believe in the nasty things that are in the Koran. All of those things, by the way, are in the Bible too.

Further, to say that the people that the Muslims attacked prior to the crusades were "peaceful" is no much nonsense. Your bias is showing big time.

 

That is exactly correct, in that the Qur'an tells Muslims that they can fight back and defend them selves against invaders.

And the definition of "unbeliever" is as a person who attacks believers.

Even the name of "infidel" comes from infidelity as in a person who is violating their religion by doing wrong.

It is Christians and Jews and Muslims that do wrong which makes them into infidels, and if they each do right then all get along fine.

I did give my reason as re-quoted below:

"Islam teaches their members self discipline and self respect and they study Theology far more-so then does any other religion."

 

Yeah ? So if you think it's all just a bunch of mistranslating, then you should have no problem with accepting my challenge, showing us how Sura 4:34 is "mistranslated", right ? So, go ahead and show us where there is a "mistranslation". Do you say that Sura 4:34 does not tell Muslim husbands to beat their wives ?

 

How does Islam teach self-discipline and self respect? I'm looking for examples, not conclusions.

When you say they study theology more than any other religion are you referring to the madrassah's of Pakistan where the students learn Arabic by rote?

 

1. Abdullah Yusuf Ali - the CAIR-approved watered-down English version.

2. Pickthall

3. Dawood

4. Shakir

5. Arberry

 

1. Of course it refutes it. Just read the very first table. 34% of Jordanian Muslims view Al Qaeda favorable. 49% of Nigerian Muslims do. 23% of Indonesian Muslims, and 20% 0f Egyptian Muslims. All refute the 90% figure.
The charts on Hamas and Hezbollah refute the 90% figure too, and they are relevant since he said "the extremist version of Islam"

2. The poll DOES support the idea that most Muslims believe in the nasty things that are in the Koran, in some countries (quite a few). For instance,
most Muslims in Lebanon think suicide bombing is justified (59%). Most in Nigeria do too (51%). Most Muslims in Egypt do too (54%). And close to half (45%) in Jordan are OK with it. And in the Muslim views on harsh punishments table most Egyptians, most Jordanians, most Pakistanis, and most Nigerians all support it (all things which would be criminal acts in America).

3. LOL. This one is too incredible. I shouldn't even dignify it with a response. You say that the nasty things that are in the Koran, , are in the Bible too ? You've got to be kidding. If you're talking about the Christian New Testament Bible, you couldn't be more wrong. The Christian Bible, like Christ, talks of love and peace. The Koran is full of hate and war. There is a nothing in the Christian Bible that advocates slavery, severe misogyny, wife beating, pedophilia, kidnapping, rape, murder, animal cruelty, torture, mutilation, and other vile things that are common in the Koran. If one were to compare the word of Jesus with the words of Mohammed, it's like comparing day and night. Jesus was perhaps the most moral, nicest person who ever lived, while Mo the pedophile was perhaps the most despicable, awful person who ever lived.

PS - your bias is showing big time. I'm guessing you are a Muslim, deep in denial about your ideology (which masquerades as a religion).

PPS - the people the Muslims attacked in north Africa, Asia Minor, and southern Europe were peaceful as evidenced by the fact that it is the Muslim aggressors who left their homelands in the Arabian peninsular to go to other lands to conquer people, not the conquered people who went to the Muslims' land.

 

Islam is not a "religion".

 

Of course it is.

Are you that sock who was here before?

 

It also teaches Apartheid towards the infidels, infidel tax, and divides the world in the relam of peace ( islamic nations) and the realm of war ( the non islamic nations which need to be submitted) it also calls for wife beating, and killing Jews.

Once they reach a decent number they will ruin Brazil just how they are ruining Europe and any other nation.

 

LOLOLOL

The thing you call an infidel tax is LESS tax than Muslims pay.

Muslims are forbidden to kill Jews, Christians or pagans except in self defense.

You should try reading the Koran..

And you might check the Dutch archives in Amsterdam for some history of Jews and Muslims in Brazil.

 

I'll agree with this.

Small margins above the halfway point in a few countries does not equal "most Muslims."

There is a lot good that can be said about Jesus. I would be stupid to deny it. But you are being stupid to deny there is any good in the Koran.

You guess wrong. I despise Christianity and Islam. I think they are both bloated with pernicious ideas. Not the same ideas, exactly, but still pernicious.

Christianity was spread in the first place by conquering. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

 

Don't know who you're referring to but millions of people around the world don't accept Islam to be a religion, and billions haven't accepted it as that over the past 1400 years. And what do you mean "of course" it is ?

Of course it ISN'T, because a religion is a creed that carrys a moral code of ethics with it. Islam's code is immoralities piled on top of one another. It is the most vile, despicable code of immorality the world has ever known, responsible for killing 1400 people around the globe, enslaving hundreds of millions, torturing, wife beating, pedophilia, animal cruelty, and you call this a religion ? Are you nuts ?

It's obvious how Islam came to be purported as a "religion". When the founders of it were espousing imperialist genocidal mass murder, extreme misogyny, pedophilia, kidnapping/slavery, torture/mutilation, racial and sexist discrimination, and other vile things, and were looking for troops to join them in their conquests throughout Asia Minor, they needed something very powerful and extreme to offset and shield them from the severe condemnation they knew they were sure to get.
The answer was religion. By pretending that the Koran, and all of its hatred and immorality was the word of God, they forced the people to accept it. After all, nobody wants to go against God do they ? As this grandiose con job spread, over time it became deeper and deeper entrenched as a religion, and more and more difficult to abolish or reform.
The sad thing is that over the 1400 year history of this abomination, there has been no reform, and not one word of the Koran has been changed.

http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

http://loganswarning.com/2011/02/19/“allah-is-dead-–-why-islam-is-not-a-religion”/

http://avideditor.wordpress.com/200...ion-nor-is-it-a-cult-it-is-a-complete-system/

http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2010/07/28/islam-not-a-religion/

http://www.halfsigma.com/2011/01/islam-not-a-religion.html

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Top-10-Reasons.htm

 

Doesn't matter if people around the world don't accept Islam as a religion.. some people don't accept Christianity as a religion or Judaism as a religion.

I can't believe that you know so little about Islam to think it doesn't have a moral and ethical creed. That's a riot.

 

OK let's read the Koran :


"I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers." Koran 8:12, "The Spoils," Dawood, p. 177 (seeds of terrorism)

"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."
Koran 9:5; "Repentance," Dawood, p. 186 ("lie in ambush" ? Doesn't sound like self-defense. Sounds like cold-blooded killing)

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." Koran 9:73, "Repentance," Dawood, p. 198

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous." Koran 9:123, "Repentance," Dawood, p. 206

"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron.
Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: "Taste the torment of the Conflagration!" Koran 22:19-20, "The Pilgrimage," Dawood, p. 333

"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." Koran 48:29, "Victory," Dawood, p. 514

"Those that deny Our revelations We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise." Koran 4:56, "Women," Dawood, p. 86

"Those that make war against God and His apostle and spread disorder in the land shall be slain and crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land." Koran 5:33, "The Table," Dawood, p. 112

"When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." Koran 47:4, "Muhammad," Dawood, p. 506

"Let not the unbelievers think that they will ever get away. They have not the power to do so. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy..."
Koran 8:59-60, "The Spoils," Dawood, p. 183

 

Idiot.. that is referring to the conduct of defensive war.. Read it in context.