Israel is a PROXY of the U.S. to control the Middle East

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  1. Scott

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    This makes perfect sense.

    Boyle: Israel is a PROXY of the U.S. to control the Middle East and secure energy supplies
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-11-01-israel-proxy-of-us-to-control-middle-east.html
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    Why is America, as well as the United Kingdom, so invested in the war Israel is currently waging on the Palestinians? International human rights lawyer Dr. Francis Boyle agreed with Brighteon.com founder Mike Adams when he interviewed Boyle, saying it could be something related to the geopolitical energy dynamics. Israel is a proxy of the U.S. and its Western allies in asserting influence and control over the Middle Eastern region in order to secure energy supplies.

    "That is definitely a factor. In my opinion, the United States and the European states after the Second World War supported the creation of the state of Israel as a Western colonial Imperial outpost to control and dominate the entire Middle East, including its fantastic energy supplies. And they have done that ever since," the international law professor said.
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    The US is famous for having de facto control over other parts of the world so that it can steal resources.* The US sides with Israel no matter how immoral Israel's actions are. This would explain it. If the **** really hits the fan, having Israel as a base would make a world of difference for the US in war that would affect US access to oil.

    Here's more info from Dr Boyle.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/author/francis-a-boyle


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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/
     
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    What a load of crap. Steal as in pay top dollar and more. Third world tyrants are famous for using the cia as an explanation for why those subject to their tyranny lead such crappy lives when in fact it is those same third would tyrants robbing their own people blind. And now thanks to the insanity that is the Paris Accords which almost no one in the west is even close to making the Eurozone bureaucrats are now going to pay third world tyrants to keep their subject poor and ignorant.
     
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    Dr. Boyle is entitled to his opinion by seems to ignore facts of history.
     
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    We're protecting freedom and democracy. That's why.
     
  6. Scott

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    The New York Times is mainstream. The American mainstream media* are the worst places to get information. If you base your opinions on what the mainstream media say, your conclusions will be erroneous and very different from reality.

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798
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    Right there: Ludicrous circular reasoning and one of the worst ironies you can get. You have admitted on several occasions that you disregard EVERY account of EVERY mainstream source - oh, unless the source happens to agree one of the minor issues you adhere to! And that stupid link, offers some highly debatable "examples" that you then use to generalize across EVERY mainstream source. That in itself is a really dumb thing to do.

    If you base your opinions exclusively on what the batshit/alternative media say, your conclusions will be erroneous and very different from reality. Your viewpoints will thus NEVER be objective but would be self-supporting crap steeped in confirmation bias.
     
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    The US is/could be entirely energy independent. The above is an example of how folks who don't understand geopolitics can be seduced by well crafted propaganda.

    This is what real antisemitic folks tell each other to try to make other folks miss the part that they are antisemites....
     
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    It's hard to claim the NYTs is "mainstream" anymore. But, even they cannot stomach the BS of some of the more virulent lefties in their employ.
     
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    Not to me. Israel doesn't have any petroleum and those that do consider Israel an enemy. The positive relationship between Israel and the U.S. actually hurts our international reputation. It makes no sense at all. Nutty opinion. Sorry.
     
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    Israel is a great ally and for more reasons than their location. However I do believe their location makes them positioned for good reasons. I would consider more so for secure trade rather than to steal as you make it sound. We have never stolen oil. We have bought it through the free trade market. We do not steal oil. The only way we can force oil to come down in price is by drilling it here.
     
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    Israel is a proxy of the west.
    That's why Britain put them there.

    They wanted the trouble out of Europe after WW2. So they confiscated land in the ME and sent them there.
     
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    And the alternative, align with the NYT propaganda ;) I don't see the difference, what ever happen to using one's own intellect.
     
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    Simplistic analysis to say the least. Where would you have established a Jewish state? Perhaps you are opposed to having it anywhere. That is the current far left position.

    As for influence in the Middle East, would you prefer if Iran filled the void? Perhaps you would, given your antipathy toward Israel and the west in general on these issues.
     
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    Louis Farrakhan was labelled an anti semite. He is at the bottom of the ladder though. Barack Obama was labelled an anti semite too!

    If Obama is at the top of the ladder and Farrakhan at the bottom, in terms of PR then who do you think is in the middle?


    All the rest of us gentiles!
     
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    There is no democracy in Israel. It's a sham. Palestinians are chased from their homes at gunpoint by settlers.
     
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    The conflict is actually simple to understand.

    Some ppl struggle because they have not followed the history.
     
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    Yes, it was simplistic. Sometimes we need to step back from all the info flying around and get to as simplistic a term as possible.

    At bit off I was also.
    I posted another post with a story that talks about the end of WW2 and how no one wanted Jewish refugees.
    Especially the USA.

    Prior to 1948 there was no void to be filled.

    The group known as Palestinians today have been living in the area since 1200BC.

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    Palestine's Early Roots
    Scholars believe the name “Palestine” is derived from the name of the people—the Philistines—who occupied part of the region in the 12th century B.C.

    Over the centuries, Jews, Muslims and Christians and followers of other religions have all claimed special connections to the region. The Hebrew Bible contains narratives of ancient Israelites' presence in the land, including the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, established by King David and his descendants around 1000 B.C. Those kingdoms' rivals included other Canaanite groups like the Philistines, whose territory encompassed the ancient city of Gaza.
    https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/palestine
     
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  19. Esau

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    Yes, iread somewhere that USA didn't want any Jewish ppl after the war because they were said to have a lower iq than other european immigrants.

    That was in a study, possibly the bell curve one or one earlier. True story.
     
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    (New York Jewish Week) — For hundreds of thousands of displaced people, World War II did not end in September 1945. The devastation of war created refugees from Eastern Europe and the liberated concentration camps, unwilling or unable to return home and forced into displaced persons camps in conquered Germany under allied protection.

    In his new book, historian David Nasaw explains in vivid detail what happened to these beleaguered people, who ranged from shattered Jewish Holocaust survivors to stateless slave laborers to Nazi collaborators who feared going home to their now Soviet-dominated homelands. “The Last Million: Europe’s Displaced Persons from World War II to Cold War” (Penguin Press) tells familiar stories – like the illegal immigration of Jews to British-controlled Palestine – and forgotten stories like America’s shameful refusal to open its gates to Holocaust survivors while welcoming war criminals.
    https://www.jta.org/2020/10/28/ideas/when-jewish-refugees-were-a-problem-no-one-wanted-to-solve
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ntrol-the-middle-east.614612/#post-1074510031

    The story I posted said it had more to do with lies and the fear of communism of Jews.
     
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    Israel holds free and fair elections. Palestine hasn't had an election in 13 years.
     
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    One of the “saints” in the history of the Democrat Party, Franklin Roosevelt had a shameful record toward the Jewish people. It was eclipsed only by his treatment of Japanese Americans.
     
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    This is more of that De-Colonialism crap that justifies the mass rape and murder of innocent civilians and the beheading of little babies. No thanks. It's it almost time for you to return to class so get indoctrinated some more by your deranged anti-Semitic professor?
     
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