Israel is a PROXY of the U.S. to control the Middle East

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  1. Scott

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    Here's an article about how the puppet president was letting the US steal Libya's oil.

    Gaddafi's Libya Was Africa 's Most Prosperous Democracy
    https://www.countercurrents.org/chengu120113.htm
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    Prior to Colonel Gaddafi, King Idris let Standard Oil essentially write Libya 's petroleum laws. Mr. Gaddafi put an end to all of that. Money from oil proceeds was deposited directly into every Libyan citizen's bank account.
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    What history do I need brushing up on?
    Jews, according to the story I linked, were not allowed entry into the USA after WW2 because they were wrongly accused of being communists.

    If you have other history, present it.
     
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    It was more than that. The U.S. at that time had a lot of anti-Semitic attitudes. Christianity had a lot more influence at that time. Many fundamentalists associated the Jewish people with crucifixion of Christ. They also made snide remarks about “Jew traders” and “Jew lawyers.” When I worked for the phone company, I once had a Jewish boss. He was a great guy, but I couldn’t believe some the comments “the old timers” from the World War II generation made behind his back. It was awful.
     
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    Britain put them there in order to avoid a future holocaust and it was the Jewish homeland. Israel is an ally, not a proxy.
     
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    More accurately some Jews, not all Jews. The policy applied to Catholics as well. Not as bad as what we did to Japanese Americans during the war, though.
     
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    Actually, it was not a homeland. At least for near 2000 yrs

    Yes, they didn't want another holocaust in Europe.
    So they put them in Arab/Muslim country.
     
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    My response would be deleted by the censors so I won't offer it.
     
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    Emotional responses would fall into the deletion category.
    Fact based responses would not be deleted.
     
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    You are incorrect.
     
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    Where have posts been deleted that show and state facts?
    I don't believe it happens.
     
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    It has happened to some of my posts.
     
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    With US support Israel has a better chance to expand its territory and the US will always be able to use Israel as a base in a future war. That's what seems obvious to me anyway. I'm sure there's more. Tell us what you know.
     
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    I don't know any more than you do. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and that seems like the major thing. By Israel succeeding economically under a democracy while its neighbors do not provides a good case for democracy. The U.S. has no bases in Israel but I assume Israel would allow one if needed as you say. Israel is the only middle eastern country that doesn't hate the U.S. They are a great ally, right up there with Canada, UK, Australia and Poland.
     
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    The people in other middle eastern countries hate the US because the US installs puppet governments in some of them which allow the US to steal its resources. The people in those countries hate Israel because Israel evicted the Palestinians from their country and took it over. I knew a Palestinian whose mother was there. The family had a farm which they'd had for several generations. The Zionists came and evicted them at gunpoint and they became refugees. The US media give a false picture of the history of that area.
     
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    The Palestinians have never had a country. Palestine was not a state. It was a UK protectorate. There has never been a Palestinian nation. The UK ceded the land to the Jews in the hope of preventing a future holocaust. If Arabs were ejected from Israel it was not because they were Arabs. There had to be another reason. I know this because 25% of the Israeli population is Arab currently. Obviously the Jews tolerate their living in Israel. Those that moved to Gaza moved there by choice because of anti-semitism.

    The U.S. doesn't have the power to install governments in foreign countries. You post is a non-starter. Sorry. Emotional propaganda rather than facts.
     
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    Do YouTube searches on "John Perkins economic hitman", " Chomsky American imperialism" and "The Zionist Story. (Full Documentary)".
    Do a search on "Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel Complete" in "https://www.bing.com/".

    Tell me what you think.
     
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    You're missing out on a lot. Go to a cybercafe or a library.
     
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    To read you tube? Who cares? You tube is not an authority on anything.
     
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    Simplistic jingoism ignores the facts on the ground. The current Israeli government, the most anti-democratic one in its history, has pursued a policy of inhumane oppression against residents of the occupied territories.
     
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