Israel, Mired in Ideological Battles, Fights on Cultural Fronts

It is the Zionists who are squatting, let them go back to europe.

 

Lol Hitler said the same thing. His point also was that morality is trumped by the need for survival. Providence and history would prove him correct.

Doesn't seem to register with some people.

 

The Israelis are squatters.. WHAT are you talking about? Most immigrated from Eastern Europe and Russian and proceeded to abuse the indigenous population.. Truman wrote of his despair over when the bullied become the bullies.

 

As I said. Ive read your many many varied accusations with interest.

Here's an interesting article from the Israeli press hidden in your links;

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US officials: Even if Israel doesn’t like it, Palestinians will get stateMembers of Kerry’s team slam Netanyahu, empathize with Abbas, warn Palestine will rise ‘whether through violence or via int’l organizations’

By(*)TIMES OF ISRAEL STAFFMay 3, 2014, 4:31 pm(*)

From left to right: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, US President Barack Obama and PA President Mahmoud Abbas during a trilateral meeting in New York, September 22, 2009 (Avi Ohayon/GPO/Flash90)

American officials directly involved in the failed Israeli-Palestinian peace process over the last nine months gave a leading Israeli columnist a withering assessment of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s handling of the negotiations, indicated that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has completely given up on the prospect of a negotiated solution, and warned Israel that the Palestinians will achieve statehood come what may — either via international organizations or through violence.

Speaking on condition of anonymity to Nahum Barnea, a prominent columnist from Israel’s best-selling daily Yedioth Aharonoth, the officials highlighted Netanyahu’s ongoing settlement construction as the issue “largely to blame” for the failure of Secretary of State John Kerry’s July 2013-April 2014 effort to broker a permanent peace accord.

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They made plain that US President Barack Obama had been prepared to release spy-for-Israel Jonathan Pollard to salvage the talks. And they warned that “the world will not keep tolerating the Israeli occupation.”

Barnea, who described his conversations with the American officials as “the closest thing to an official American version of what happened” in the talks, said the secretary is now deciding whether to wait a few months and try to renew the negotiating effort or to publicize the US’s suggested principles of an agreement.

Detailing how the US sought to solve disputes over the core issues of a two-state solution,(*)Barnea wrote on Friday(*)that, “Using advanced software, the Americans drew a border outline in the West Bank that gives Israel sovereignty over some 80 percent of the settlers that live there today. The remaining 20 percent were meant to evacuate. In Jerusalem, the proposed border is based on Bill Clinton’s plan — Jewish neighborhoods to Israel, Arab neighborhoods to the Palestinians.”

He quoted the Americans saying that while the Israeli government made no response to the American plan, and also failed to draw its own border outline, Abbas(*)agreed to the US-suggested border outline.

US Secretary of State John Kerry, left, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu meet in Jerusalem, December 6, 2013 (photo credit: Matty Stern/US Embassy Tel Aviv)

The Americans said they had intended to begin the nine-month negotiating period with an Israeli announcement of a settlement freeze. But this proved impossible, an American official was quoted saying, “because of the current makeup of the Israeli government, so we gave up… We didn’t realize [that] continuing construction allowed ministers in [Netanyahu’s] government to very effectively sabotage the success of the talks.(*)There are a lot of reasons for the peace effort’s failure, but people in Israel shouldn’t ignore the bitter truth*)the primary sabotage came from the settlements. The Palestinians don’t believe that Israel really intends to let them found a state when, at the same time, it is building settlements on the territory meant for that state. We’re talking about the announcement of 14,000 housing units, no less. Only now, after talks blew up, did we learn that this is also about expropriating land on a large scale. That does not reconcile with the agreement.

“At this point, it’s very hard to see how the negotiations could be renewed, let alone lead to an agreement,” the Americans continued. “Towards the end, Abbas demanded a three-month freeze on settlement construction. His working assumption was that if an accord is reached, Israel could build along the new border as it pleases. But the Israelis said no.”

Jonathan Pollard (photo credit: YouTube screenshot)

The Americans told Barnea that, in contrast to the hitherto unclear reports of whether the US was prepared to release American-Israeli spy Pollard to salvage the talks from collapse in recent weeks, Obama was(*)willing “to prepare for Jonathan Pollard’s release. Such a move wouldn’t have helped his popularity in the American security system… There was a massive effort on our part to pull the wagon out of the deep quicksand it was stuck in. But the reality here hit us hard. Neither side had a sense of urgency. Kerry was the only one who felt a sense of urgency, and that was not enough.”

One bitter American official told Barnea, “I guess we need another intifada to create the circumstances that would allow progress.”

A third intifada, the Americans made clear, “would be a tragedy. The Jewish people are supposed to be smart; it is true that they’re also considered a stubborn nation. You’re supposed to know how to read the map: In the 21st century, the world will not keep tolerating the Israeli occupation. The occupation threatens Israel’s status in the world and threatens Israel as a Jewish state.”

Pressed by Barnea on perceived international hypocrisy over Israel’s presence in the West Bank, when the world “closes its eyes to China’s takeover of Tibet, it stutters at what Russia’s doing to Ukraine,” the Americans were quoted as responding*)“Israel is not China. It was founded by a UN resolution. Its prosperity depends on the way it is viewed by the international community.”

The American officials described to Barnea what they called Abbas’s loss of trust in the talks and in Netanyahu, and how his skepticism hardened as settlement-building continued, and as Israel demanded complete security control over the territories. From Abbas’s point of view, the Americans told Barnea, the sense was “that nothing was going to change on the security front. Israel was not willing to agree to time frames; its control of the West Bank would continue forever.(*)Abbas reached the conclusion that there was nothing for him in such an agreement. He’s 79 years old. He has reached the last chapter of his life. He’s tired. He was willing to give the process one final chance, but found, according to him, that he has no partner on the Israeli side. His legacy won’t include a peace agreement with Israel.

John Kerry, left, with Mahmoud Abbas in Paris on February 19 2014. (photo credit: US State Department)

“In February, Abbas arrived at a Paris hotel for a meeting with Kerry. He had a lingering serious cold. ‘I’m under a lot of pressure,’ he complained. ‘I’m sick of this.’ He rejected all of Kerry’s ideas. A month later, in March, he was invited to the White House. Obama presented the American-formulated principles verbally — not in writing. Abbas refused.”

Abbas, the officials told Barnea, had made concessions — in accepting that “Palestine” would be demilitarized; in agreeing to the US border outline that would see 80% of settlers coming under Israeli sovereignty, and in agreeing for Israel to retain control of sensitive security areas such as the Jordan Valley for five years.

“He also agreed that the Jewish neighborhoods in East Jerusalem would remain under Israeli sovereignty, and agreed that the return of Palestinians to Israel would depend on Israeli willingness,” the Americans said. “‘Israel won’t be flooded with refugees,’ he promised.”

In a rare attribution of some blame to Abbas, the Americans said they “couldn’t understand why it bothered him so much” to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. But here too, ultimately, the Americans were empathetic to Abbas: “The Palestinians came to the conclusion that Israel was pulling a nasty trick on them. They suspected there was an effort to get from them approval of the Zionist narrative.”

Housing and Construction Minister Uri Ariel (C) at a press conference promoting new housing units to be built in the Jewish settlement of Tel Tzion, near Jerusalem, on August 13, 2013 (photo credit: Flash90)

The final straw for Abbas was the late March announcement by Uri Ariel’s Housing and Construction Ministry of building tenders for more than 700 housing units in Jerusalem’s Gilo neighborhood. At that point, the Americans told Barnea, Abbas “lost interest. He turned to the reconciliation talks with Hamas and to the question of who would inherit his mantle.”

The Americans warned that, with the talks over, Israel might be facing “quite a problem.(*)As of now, nothing is stopping the Palestinians from turning to the international community. The Palestinians are tired of the status quo. They will get their state in the end — whether through violence or by turning to international organizations.”

They also warned that if, as announced, Israel seeks “to impose(*)economic sanctions on the Palestinians, it could boomerang. The West Bank economy will collapse, and then Abbas will say ‘I don’t want this anymore. Take this from me.’ There’s great potential for deterioration here, which could end with the dismantling of the Palestinian Authority. Israeli soldiers will have to administer the lives of 2.5 million Palestinians, to their mothers’ chagrin. The donating countries will stop paying up, and the bill of $3 billion a year will have to be paid by your Finance Ministry.”

Some of the warnings delivered by the Americans reflected a similar tone to thatexpressed by Obama in an interview(*)he gave shortly before his last meeting with Netanyahu at the White House in March.

Israel can expect to face international isolation and possible sanctions from countries and companies across the world if Netanyahu fails to endorse a framework agreement with the Palestinians, Obama cautioned in an(*)interview with Bloomberg(*)at the time. If Netanyahu “does not believe that a peace deal with the Palestinians is the right thing to do for Israel, then he needs to articulate an alternative approach,” Obama said then. “There comes a point where you can’t manage this anymore, and then you start having to make very difficult choices,” he said.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaks during the weekly cabinet meeting on February 16, 2014 (photo credit: Marc Israel Sellem/POOL/Flash90)

The president went on to condemn Israel’s settlement activities in the West Bank, and said that though his allegiance to the Jewish state was permanent, building settlements across the Green Line was counterproductive and would make it extremely difficult for the US to defend Israel from painful(*)repercussions in the(*)international community. “If you see no peace deal and continued aggressive settlement construction — and we have seen more aggressive settlement construction over the last couple years than we’ve seen in a very long time — if Palestinians come to believe that the possibility of a contiguous sovereign Palestinian state is no longer within reach, then our ability to manage the international fallout is going to be limited,” Obama warned.

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Hmm mm. America the Israelis greatest ally. Blaming Israel above all for the failure of talks.

What are we to make of it?

 

What is this post about?

 

I'm not a psychiatrist but I think projection.

 

I'll already responded to that in my previous post. And you're not responding to what kind of agenda is being made by what kind of people. That they are making up lies is just part of it.

The answer is really clear. I noticed you're ignoring that part totally that Israeli's themselves claim they are an apartheid state.

That's the headline. De Klerk says its just unfair when you do. And he did say there are parallels to be drawn between his old apartheid state and Israel.

We're talking about an old racist who still is holding a grudge against the entire world that his country got economically sanctioned into accepting equal rights. That is obvious from the article. In the article he responds to the sanctions against Israel and notes how Israel treats Palestinians living inside Israel. The article omits to question to how he thinks about how Israel treats Palestinians who the Israeli Jews kicked out to thieve all their belongings. Do note that South Africa ethnic cleansed black people as well and put them in "districts". Hence there is a South African movie called district 9 with aliens, making a clear reference to district 6. It might as well be about Gaza.

Correction. That racist demanded Nelson Mandela to stop promoting his reign of terror against him and his government if he wanted to negotiate a deal. Nelson refused and HE tore it all down not giving in an inch.

 

You post a poll done by a leftist anti Israel group renowned for crap like this and despite the NIF disassociating itself from the crap poll and the guy who commissioned it stating it was next to worthless you stand by it but, won't even tell us what the question was that provides the results you state occurred and now you won't even tell us what is wrong with the translation and instead, base your entire argument on how they can't ever be right because you don't like them.

""Levy states that the survey was commissioned by the New Israel Fund’s Yisraela Goldblum Fund. It is perhaps an indicator of just how politicized and toxic this poll is that the New Israel Fund itself has disassociated itself from it. NIF has issued a clarification (in Hebrew) that it does not stand behind the survey and is not related to it in any way.""

""The association of joint projects with various organizations , including with the New Israel Fund . NIF makes it clear that she was not behind the poll , published Wednesday in Haaretz, and it is not related to him in any way .""

Which question was that one. I've asked you to post it and you have yet to do so hence, it has never occurred with even the guy and group that commissioned the poll scurrying like cockroaches away from the embarrassing light so, if you wish to make a point, please make it with some proof.

He said;

""“you have Palestinians living in Israel with full political rights,” and “you don’t have discriminatory laws against them, I mean not letting them swim on certain beaches or anything like that. I think it’s unfair to call Israel an apartheid state.""

In other words he knows Israel has no apartheid program as they ""have Palestinians living in Israel with full political rights,”" and they ""don’t have discriminatory laws against them"" and in any case, certainly does not believe Israel is an apartheid state.

So you think he does not know apartheid when he sees it. That would be akin to you not being able to tell the difference between a man and a woman because you were a man.

Are we talking about Mandela's vice president, the one who got the Nobel for dismantling apartheid? If so then we are both speaking about somebody who knows apartheid inside and out and is well qualified to judge if something is apartheid or not.

In any case, now that you know who commissioned the poll and how they ran away from it as it was complete crap which they instigated and were later caught doing just that you still stand behind it and, your only way of attacking Meri's translation is to attempt to sully a near pristine reporting record which would put most mainstream media to shame for truthful reporting.

 

It still doesn't change a thing that the majority of Israeli's themselves confessed they are living in an apartheid state.

so what.

I find the question absolutely and totally irrelevant to the answer that the majority claims they are living in an apartheid state. I said that plenty of times before. I have not seen any argument made by you to think otherwise.

As I noted. It joyfully omits the opinion how Israel treats the palestinians who the Israeli jews ethnic cleansed to thieve their properties. That is where de Klerk goes like that there are parallels to be drawn. You're not responding to this and just repeating yourself.

We're talking about that Mandela that identifies himself with the violence and terror of the PLO to end Jewish oppression. And if you look this up on youtube, you got your keppel wearing Jews shaking their heads. The American interviewer warns Mandela that such a comment might persuade the Jews in the US to demand the economic sanctions applied to apartheid South Africa to be lifted. And he responds with laughter and that Arafat is a comrade at arms and that he is not interested in the internal affairs of America etc etc. And it was De Klerk who was his opponent in the negotiations to end apartheid.

Oh yeah. Mandela a true friend of Israel... lol

 

They did? What was the question and what was the answer? You keep on accusing Memri of making things up and here you do that same thing with this one poll that even the guys who paid for it won't back up. You keep saying that they said something but refuse to provide the quote of anything to prove it and, as you keep alluding to, Memri can't be right despite having a sterling record for reporting yet, unlike your source, they didn't disassociate themselves from the videos you say are not correct.

The guys that hired the poll taker say he's wrong and they don't stand behind it because it's crap. Heck, even you don't have a clue as to what the questions or answers were and you are only trying to prove a point on a message board and they have their entire reputation on the line for a flawed poll that ain't worth a thing so at least they know a dead issue when they paid for it.

Did they claim that? Prove it.

Show me this official program where 'theves' were 'ethnically cleansing' (term used by the UN to designate murder, rape and complete and utter violence towards minorities to wipe entire ethnic population out in certain areas.) As far as I know nothing of this sort has occurred in Israel so possibly your claim to 'ethnic cleansing' is actually something akin to dissuading property ownership or not renting to certain ethnicities as occurs in every nation on earth.

Thought we were talking ab out a poll that you don't have a frickin' clue as to what the question or answer was since you can't show us.

Declerk knows what apartheid was and he says it is not in Israel. Please return when you have your question and answer, otherwise, you are backing a poll that even the people who ran it say it isn't a valid poll.

 

Definitely decadent, baseless and surely irresponsible to the PF readers... I explain...

When Israel is being accused of Racism and when it is called <apartheid Israel>...
Arab racism and apartheid, has been generally been ignored and overlooked in the Kingdom of Jordan, the idea that a Jew cannot be a citizen is not addressed ; nor the Saudi policy that outlaws any non - Muslim taking residence or visiting the holy Muslim city of Mecca.

The declaration that any Real Estate from Israel securely in the hands of the so called Palestinians would be automatically be free of Jews at perpetuity and in other words <Jew Free>!

Ignored also in Israeli Education is the need of enlighten the youth about virulent anti-Semitism emanating from the media and religious pundits in Shiite Beirut, Alawite Damascus and Wahhabi Riyadh.

Only the Jews are in the Dock for racist views and crimes while the Muslim World of hate passes virtually unnoticed.
This must be read by all and debated.

 

Who is ignoring any of this?

Are you going to demand that we pay attention to these Arab middle eastern countries? They are not tied to the West. They do not have close relations and support from us.

What is it you want from us?

Would you like us to leave you alone?

 

I'm really happy to debate this point from HBendor in detail.

Let's see what the Israelis response is eh?

 

Indeed they did.

Memri made things up. The Poll did not make up the answer where the average Israeli confessed they are living in an apartheid nation.

Indeed. And you know that poll and where to find it. Hence I'm not going to source it anymore.

The Israeli government made it the law that ethnic cleansed Arabs are refused to return because of their race. To than make it the law that people who are not able to return to their properties, are properties the Jew government can thieve. Look it up yourself.

FFS.. how on earth can you keep misspelling that name? It's De Klerk.
And he agrees there are parallels to be drawn between his old apartheid nation and Israel.

 

Why do you guys fight so hard to distance yourselves from Apartheid?

Your laws and practices are riddled with discriminatory filth.

Get over it. Its not a personal reflection on you and many Israelis oppose it.

 

No they didn't. The anti Israeli who reported about the poll said that and the guys who paid for the poll stepped away when it was revealed that the poll said nothing about it at all.

Sure it didn't and that's why you can't show us the question or the answer that you state is there.

I do and, know there is no question that asks what you say was asked and, there sure is no answer that you say is there.

Let's see, so now by saying Arabs were ethnically cleansed you now say that millions of people in Yugoslavia were legally evicted from their homes and no systematic genocide, murders, rapes or any threats of violence too place. Just an eviction order and they all went packing. Shame on you to bury the meaning of ethnic cleansing like this for your own purposes.

FFS how can you keep on misspelling theft and stealing by saying 'thieve' and 'thieves'

Ah, a point at last. He also stated there was no comparison and that Israel may, if it becomes one nation with the Palestinians become an apartheid state but was certain it isn't one now but, you can now, on top of providing the question and answer from your crap poll show us what exactly he meant by that so, in what way did he say that please.

 

You mean the systematic separation of races that infected every part of life in South Africa and doesn't apply to Israel? Why would anybody be close to such a thing when it doesn't exist?

I imagine you will have to run that one by the Arab Judges and the legal system which has no such thing but, we await your reply so we can compare it to actual apartheid which existed in South Africa and see what is what. We can start by showing that Black South Africans had few rights and passports and were not permitted to hold political office whereas in Israel they do and are.

Continue please.

Most are over it as they were never on it. Why some find it so difficult that others won't accept a lie is beyond me but, stay on the bandwagon with the poll that doesn't even ask the question and therefore can't possibly come up with the answer the anti Israeli reporter says it does, it suits you.

 

The poll didn't lie about the answer that the Israeli's gave that they are living in an apartheid state, that is unlike MEMRI. While if you are interested in the question, than you can go look for it yourself.

I've not said a thing about Yugoslavia. You are acting like MEMRI by putting your lying words in my mouth.
And by this you lost your argument.

Negative. You're acting like MEMRI again. You know very well he said that there are parallels to be drawn. It's mentioned on wikipedia and you know it.

 

Yes thank you for the invitation to explain, I will continue;

Here's a fascinating bit;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy#International_analysis

But lets be fair, there are significant differences;

This report is interesting;
http://www.adalah.org/uploads/oldfiles/upfiles/2011/Adalah_The_Inequality_Report_March_2011.pdf

End of the day, Israeli apartheid 'like' policies cannot and do not make Israel a state just like old South Africa.

Whatever kind of apartheid Israel practices, it is not a South African one, its an Israeli one.

But the notion that Arabs in Israel are treated well in Israel is preposterous, for very sound Zionist reasons they have had their development severely restricted.

 

From Middle East truth Forum

The Middle East's real apartheid (Arab apartheid - Muslim apartheid)

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The Middle East's real apartheid - JPost - Op-Eds 5 Mar 2012
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If apartheid is indeed a crime against humanity, Israel actually is the only apartheid-free state in the Middle East &#8211; a state whose Arab population enjoys full equality before the law and more prerogatives than most ethnic minorities in the free world, from the designation of Arabic as an official language to the recognition of non-Jewish religious holidays as legal days of rest.

By contrast, apartheid has been an integral part of the Middle East for over a millennium, and its Arab and Muslim nations continue to legally, politically and socially enforce this discriminatory practice against their hapless minorities.

Why then should an innocent party be under constant pressure to &#8220;come clean&#8221; while the real culprits are not only left unscathed but also given a worldwide platform to blame others for their own crimes? Rather than engage in incessant apologetics and protestations of innocence, something Jews have been doing for far too long, Israel should adopt a proactive strategy, call a spade a spade and target the real perpetrators of Middle East apartheid: the region&#8217;s Arab and Muslim nations.

Arab/Muslim apartheid comes in many forms, and some victims have been subjected to more than one.

&#8226; Religious intolerance:

Muslims historically viewed themselves as distinct from, and superior to, all others living under Muslim rule, known as &#8220;dhimmis.&#8221; They have been loath to give up this privileged status in modern times. Christians, Jews and Baha&#8217;is remain second-class citizens throughout the Arab/Muslim world, and even non-ruling Muslim factions have been oppressed by their dominant co-religionists (e.g. Shi&#8217;ites in Saudi Arabia, Sunnis in Syria).

&#8226; Ethnic inequality:

This historic legacy of intolerance extends well beyond the religious sphere. As longtime imperial masters, Arabs, Turks and Iranians continue to treat long-converted populations, notably Kurds and Berbers, that retained their language, culture and social customs, as inferior.

&#8226; Racism:

The Middle East has become the foremost purveyor of anti-Semitic incitement in the world with the medieval blood libel widely circulated alongside a string of modern canards (notably The Protocols of the Elders of Zion) depicting Jews as the source of all evil.

Likewise, Africans of sub-Saharan descent are held in deep contempt, a vestige of the region&#8217;s historic role as epicenter of the international slave trade.

&#8226; Gender discrimination:

Legal and social discrimination against women is pervasive throughout the Arab-Islamic world, accounting for rampant violence (for example domestic violence or spousal rape are not criminalized) and scores of executions every year, both legal and extra-judicial (i.e. honor killings). Discrimination against homosexuals is even worse.

&#8226; Denial of citizenship:

The withholding of citizenship and attendant rights from a large segment of the native-born population is common. Palestinian communities in the Arab states offer the starkest example of this discrimination (in Lebanon, for example, they cannot own property, be employed in many professions, move freely, etc.). The Bidun (stateless peoples) in the Gulf states, and hundreds of thousands of Kurds in Syria have been subjected to similar discrimination.

&#8226; Labor inequality:

Mistreatment of foreign workers (especially household servants), ranging from sexual abuse to virtual imprisonment and outright murder, is widely tolerated throughout the Middle East, especially in oil-exporting countries that host large expatriate labor forces.

&#8226; Slavery:

The Arabic-speaking countries remain the world&#8217;s foremost refuge of slavery, from child and sex trafficking in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states to actual chattel slavery in Sudan and Mauritania. Indeed, Islamists throughout the Middle East have had no qualms advocating the legalization of slavery.

&#8226; Political Oppression:

Many Middle Eastern regimes are little more than elaborate repressive systems aimed at perpetuating apartheid-style domination by a small minority: Alawites in Syria; Tikritis in Saddam&#8217;s Iraq; the Saudi royal family; the Hashemite dynasty in Jordan.

Possibly the world&#8217;s most arresting anachronism, these endemic abuses have until now escaped scrutiny and condemnation. Western governments have been loath to antagonize their local authoritarian allies, while the educated classes have absolved Middle Easterners of responsibility for their actions in the patronizing tradition of the &#8220;white man&#8217;s burden,&#8221; dismissing regional players as half-witted creatures, too dim to be accountable for their own fate.

It is time to denounce these discriminatory practices and force Arab/Muslim regimes to abide by universally accepted principles of decency and accountability. This will not only expose the hollowness of the Israel delegitimization campaign but will also help promote regional peace and stability....

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The Case for Israel - Page x - Alan Dershowitz - 2011
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The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades) - R. S., 2005
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Organizer - Volume 40 - Page xvii - 1988
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Sudan - Volume 3, Issue 3 - Pax Sudani Network - 1993
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Pragna - Volume 8 - 2006
This is open, clear and meticulously planned Islamic apartheid which might even surpass the enormity of the apartheid policies of the erstwhile South African government. In Saudi Arabia , non-Muslims are merely tolerated. They have no right
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Africanity redefined - Volume 1 - Page 218 - Ali Al&#700;Amin Mazrui, Ricardo René Laremont - 2002
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Israel and black Africa: time to normalise - Page 86 - N. Enuma el Mahmud-Okereke - 1986
Against this background, it is most unfair and hypocritical to turn a blind eye on the on-going Arab apartheid, which has assumed a murderous onslaught in Sudan, only to single out South Africa for global villification.
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Negative Ethnicity: From Bias to Genocide - Page 151 - Koigi Wa Wamwere - 2003
... predominantly Muslim, have ruled Nigeria for thirty-one out of thirty-five years of independence and dominated the military for twenty-five years. When racial apartheid fell in South Africa, Arab apartheid against NEGATIVE ETHNICITY...
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Africa in chaos - Page 50 - George B. N. Ayittey - 1999
In Sudan and Mauritania, Arabs held power and blacks were excluded (Arab apartheid); in Rwanda and Burundi, the Hutus and Tutsis alternatively usurped power; in Nigeria the Hausa-Fulani ran the government (tribal apartheid); Togo, Zaire,..
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Historical Dictionary of Islamic Fundamentalism - Page 327 - Mathieu Guidère - 2012
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Towards genocide in Kenya: the curse of negative ethnicity - Page 220 - Koigi wa Wamwere - 2003
... of thirty-five years of independence and dominated the military for twenty-five years. - When racial apartheid fell in South Africa, Arab apartheid against the black southerners did not end in Sudan. Arab insensitivity Towards Genocide.
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Midstream - Volume 36 - Page 8 - Theodore Herzl Foundation - 1990
... of open Israeli participation might not have produced a timely ending of Arab Apartheid (with European and American condonation) towards Israel. My guess is that given the alternatives of being overrun by Saddam's Iraqis or being secured ...
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Arab apartheid / Muslim apartheid are the largest &#8216;apartheid systems&#8217;, that exist today

Virtually all non-Arabs and/or non-Muslims are second class citizens. Among minorities that feel the wrath of the bigoted Arab-Muslim world are:

* Berbers (native N. Africans, before Arab invasion).

* Copts (indigenous Egyptians suffer from both: Arab racism and Islamic bigotry).

* Kurds (Examples include: [Saddam's] Iraq and Syria.

* Blacks, in Arab lands or in Arab ruled Africa like the genocide in the Sudan and slavery in both Sudan and in Mauritania.

* Asians, particularly in the Gulf Arab states. [Sex slaves or "plain" slaves).

* Maronites-Christians [Native Lebanese] suffer from both Arab ethnic racism and religious bigotry, like the massacres in the 1970s by local Muslims and by Palestinian/Syrian forces.

* Assyrians, are/have been persecuted both racially and religiously. Still very much marginalized in Iraq, for example.

* Iran is not an Arab country but racism is huge against Kurds, Jews, Turkmens, etc. So is anti-non-Muslim bigotry against Christians, Bahai, Zoroastrians and other in the Islamic republic.

* Turkey is also a Muslim non-Arab country and Kurds, Greeks, Armenians and other ethnicities have been through much suffering, genocide. Still there&#8217;s great wide racism against non-Turkish ethnic groups. Turkey&#8217;s policy in Cyprus has also been recognized as a real Apartheid by many. All non-Muslims are automatically branded as &#8220;foreigners&#8221; at the &#8220;moderate&#8221; Islamic supremacy of Turkey.

* All non-Msulims in &#8216;Islamic Apartheid state&#8217; of S. Arabia.

* Asians [slaves!] in the Gulf Arab states.

* Al-Akhdam in Yemen.

* Gypsies in Jordan.

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Islamic-Arab &#8220;Palestine&#8221; apartheid:

* Ahmadiyya Muslims are harshly persecuted in (Pakistan and in) the &#8220;Palestinian&#8221; Apartheid authority and/or by Hamas.

* Descendents of slaves of the Bedouins are still stigmatized by racist &#8220;Palestinians&#8221;.

* Christians are discriminated, persercuted against [especially since Y. Arafat's Islamization of Bethlehem], by Palestine authority and Hamas regime.

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From anti-Jewish Apartheid:

- The Arab racist apartheid against the Jews attempted genocide ever since the 1920s, (Like Mufti of &#8220;Palestine&#8221; at his incited massacres, and Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood who called simply &#8216;to kill Jews&#8217.
- Chased out a Million Jews in the late 1940.
- Has boycotted and demonized [every logical defensive action is branded "racist"] the Jewish democratic-free-equal-to-all state only because it&#8217;s the &#8220;other&#8221;. It is neither Muslim nor purely Arab.
- The Arab racist world continues to play with Arab-Palestinians (grandchildren of Arab immigrants) like ping-pong against Israel.

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AND THE BEACON OF APARTHEID HAS THE AUDACITY TO CHARGE MULTI-RACIAL ISRAEL&#8217;S BEAUTIFUL DEMOCRACY [THAT OFTEN GIVES PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR ITS ARABS OVER JEWS] WITH THIS TERMINOLOGY?

THE ARAB DECEPTIVE PROPAGANDA MACHINE THAT ACTS AS IF ARAB-ISLAMIC GENOCIDAL CAMPAIGN IS NOT OBVIOUS TO DETERMINE ISRAEL&#8217;S EXTRA SECURITY MEASURES [INCLUDING AN ANTI-TERROR / ANTI-MASSACRES WALL].

As if we don&#8217;t know the &#8216;Arab oil lobby&#8217;s power&#8217; over the UN and other major international organizations and some African officials to go along with the Arab propaganda.

Despite some non-Arabs who jump on this wagon out of: ignorance, of confusion complex, or of sheer bigotry, never forget, that this entire &#8220;apartheid, racism&#8221; label was invented by Arab racists ganging up in the UN since 1975.

Even promoter of the apartheid-slur [which was actually invented in 1961 by A. Shukairy, who was the henchman and spokesman for the infamous Mufti al-Husseini the Mufti, notorious for being A. Hitler's ally and adviser on exterminating the Jews. Shukairy also called to throw the Jews into the sea] J. Carter admitted on CNN: &#8220;I recognize that Israel is a wonderful democracy with freedom of speech and equality of treatment under the law between Arab Israelis and Jewish Israelis.&#8221; edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0612/12/acd.02.html

Incidentally, the lying Pallywood machine also created a fake &#8220;memorandum&#8221; claiming that N. Mandela ever uttered this crappy analogy.

Last but not least:

Isn&#8217;t it true that the anti-Jewish &#8220;apartheid&#8221; slur campaign is: 1) to demonize Jews and 2) to hide the real apartheid practiced by the Arab-Islamic world?

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Arab Islamic apartheid vs Israel's open equal real democracy

 

Lol. What a complete load of rubbish.

Israel can be favourably compared in almost every respect with all African states. Most Asian states most south American states.

Trying to compare yourselves to your Arab neighbor's is simply proof of exactly how desperate you are.

Lol. Not once do we even get a denial of what's been going on in Israel. Simply a vague and stretching excuse that your not as bad as the Arabs.

 

Here Prof. Dershowitz explains in a Q & A Video all the problems of the brainwashed Arab antagonists of this Forum. Listen and debate.

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/a...-on-this-anti-israel-student-and-it-was-epic/

 

Here is another attempts to straighten the mind of doubting adversaries, watch this video and decide on your own.

The day the PLO&#8217;s spokeswomen lost her mind on live TV!

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/t...va&utm_term=Hillel-vs-dianna_png_3F1458484134

 

Dershowitz is a demonstrated fabricator and plagiarist.

 

He's a fraud. Besides... to yell that people in Gaza should be self reliant, build a state and bla bla...
when everybody knows the Jews are banning everything those people need to be able to build a state and to be self reliant.
They are hardly allowed to fish even. So I be with Jimmy Carter and deny the guys existence.