Israel to pay students to defend it online

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  1. DrewBedson

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    Know where you coming from.

    Terrorists Take Recruitment Efforts Online

    Heck, even your own Hamasbara cell has given you orders to do this so don't feel left out.

     
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    Oh the old claim someone supports Hamas because they are critical of Israeli policies and human rights abuses. Sorry that does not work with the intelligent.
     
  3. notme

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    I dont even need to read any further than this. This is just such a nonsense.

    Holocaust denial does not begin or end with the confession of Hoess. The site even mentions the holocaust is a historic fact just like the dropping of the atomic bomb.

    That you simply totally ignore that last part again and again,.. just shows how big of an extremist you are to cuss at nazi this and nazi thatm holocaust deniar this holocaust deniar that. It's all smear and insults because your goal is to mute the debate.

    And you're muting the debate about Israel employs a bunch of monkey to yell their propaganda on the net.
     
  4. DrewBedson

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    And I need read no further than this. Denialism is also revisionism. Chanign the numbers, changing the circumstances, the reasons, the methods etc etc etc. The entire site is denialism and Antisemitism in case you haven't noticed.

    Care to quote the portion that tells us all the six million Jews were systematically exterminated in hideous ways by the Nazis?

    And no, this is a side discussion, you can return to telling us all about how terrorists such as Hamas and other groups call for followers to use the internet as I posted above.
     
  5. notme

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    Questioning/Changing the numbers where Hoess was quilty for =/= changing overall numbers.

    The site mentions the holocaust is a historic fact just like the dropping of the atomic bomb. So the only thing that is denied, is you denying that statement.


    Cussing around holocaust denial this and that = obvious hasbara troll tactic.


    Just everything goes to ram this discussion away that Israel employes keyboard smacking lemmings to vent propaganda.
     
  6. DrewBedson

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    Holocaust denial and revisionism is racist hate speech and, Hoess's confession stands as fact. Even the author admits he hasn't any proof it is not fact yet, in order to st ick with the hope that he can fool the antisemitic types out there he states he was tortured in order to support his also false contention the Holocaust did not occur as it is historically recorded and documented.


    Asked you before and will ask you again, care to quote the portion that tells us all the six million Jews were systematically exterminated in hideous ways by the Nazis?

    Using an antisemitic Holocaust denying revisionist site as your mother ship = intellectual emptiness.

    Have you addressed your Article 30 of the Hamas order that all the Hamasbara shills fall under yet or is the truth a bit too close to home for you?

     
  7. notme

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    It's in the link YOU posted.
    They say the holocaust is a historic fact just like the dropping of the atomic bomb
    Did you not watch the vid, that is the main thing about your link?

    They say the holocaust is a fact. Yet you rant that it's holocaust denial.
    It's obvious you're just smearing and insulting, yelling nazi and holocause denial.
    The stuff THEY say it's rather the norm of the extremists who on a hasbara trip.


    How exceptional amusing that you fit the profile.
     
  8. DrewBedson

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    Actually they do not say that. They question the Holocaust and details of it. Nice try though.
     
  9. notme

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    They do. It's in the 6th or 7th minute of the video.

    I'm taking it you saw it entirely,...
    And so only have been making up, smearing and insulting page after page.

    The stuff that a hasabara troll does according to the page,
    The stuff Israel pays to do.
     
  10. DrewBedson

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    Was that before or after he says that the Jews Declared war on Germany?:roflol:

    "Judea declares war on Germany!"
     
  11. notme

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    Oh, just quickly change the subject now that you can not deny that the site says the holocaust is a fact like the dropping of the atomic bombs. How obvious and amusing.
     
  12. DrewBedson

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    Actually I can't find it amidst the revisionist crap on the vid so gave you one of the contentions that the deniaist vid states. Perhaps you can provide us with the actual time stamp and then address the rest of the vid in which it states that the Jews could not possibly be gassed in those numbrs or that the numbers of Jews killed could not be six million and then seriously tell us this vid is not a revisionist vid. And then, we will move onto how the site states that Irving and Fasurisson are scholars when they have both been taken to court for their hate crimes and beaten not to mention financially ruined because of their lies.
     
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    7th minute, 12 seconds of your link...

    That is the point it states holocaust is as real as dropping of the atmic bomb
    >>>Insult removed<<<
     
  14. DrewBedson

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    You need to take some reading lessons as he says;

    "It cannot possibly be incitement to religious or racial hatred to point out that something that is said to have happened, over sixty years ago may not have happened in exactly the way it was reported to have happened, at the time."

    Doesn't seem like he is stating the Holocaust as accepted is a fact rather, that he is making a case for revisionism.


    "Just as there is no disputing the there is no disputing that atomic bombs were dropped on Japanese civilians the Jewish concept of a Holocaust cannot be denied."

    Yes, there is no denying the Jews believe the Holocaust occurred according to what they believe. This statement is meaningless notme.

    "But why should it be the only episode in history that is off limits to fair comment and freedom of expression?"

    Once again, making the case for revisionism and denying the Holocaust as accepted and proven in historical documents.

    "Making certain details of the Holocaust sacrosanct stirs deep suspicion in my mind because it could mean that there are those who wish to reflect certain facts which may not wear well on themselves. "


    Nowhere is he saying the Holocaust where six million Jews were murdered systematically is a fact.

    Nice try though.

    88!
     
  15. notme

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    It's says what Jews believe how the holocaust happened, can not be denied.
    You're just endlessly smearing and cussing at a page, that exposes Hasbara trolls.

    Verry amusing.
     
  16. DrewBedson

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    No, it said the Jewish concept of a Holocaust cannot be denied. If he had meant that the Holocaust as the Jews believe it to be is factual and cannot be denied he would have said so and, certainly not have stated that Hoess was lying and could not possibly gas the amount of prisoners that he did and, never would have gone onto say that the list of Holocaust deniers he provides "tell it like it really was" since they counter the Holocaust the way the Jews and, the rest of the world and documented history does as well.

    The list;

    With great respect for those who have tried—though harassed, punished, fined, imprisoned and otherwise abused—to tell it like it really was: Arthur R. Butz, author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, a book denying the Holocaust

    Robert Faurisson - a French academic who is a Holocaust denier.

    Paul Grubach - author of Charles D. Provan and "Nazi Gas Chamber" Nonsense,

    Gerd Honsik - Austrian writer and lyric poet, and a prominent Holocaust denier,

    David Irving - English writer[1] and Holocaust denier,

    Nicholas Kollerstrom - lost his fellowship with UCL after posting what he described as "revisionist" material about Auschwitz on a website known for its Holocaust denial.,

    Fred Leuchter - author of forensic Holocaust denial material. In the past, he had been contracted by governmental authorities of several states of the United States to improve the design of instruments for capital punishment, but no longer does so, primarily because of his lack of any formal engineering experience, but also because of charges of running a "death row shakedown" in which Leuchter threatened to testify for the defense in capital cases if he was not given contracts for his services by the state.[1][2][3]

    Leuchter became known around the world for his testimony in defense of Holocaust denier Ernst Zündel in 1988.[4] His study for Zündel's trial is referred to as the Leuchter Report after it was published by Zündel as such and is often framed as a scientifically based work of Holocaust denial,

    Horst Mahler - has been repeatedly convicted of Volksverhetzung ("incitement of popular hatred") and Holocaust denial and is currently serving a 12-year prison sentence.,

    Ingrid Rimland - former social worker, and Holocaust denier,

    Germar Rudolf - German chemist and a convicted Holocaust denier,

    Bradley Smith - media director of the Institute for Historical Review,[42] founded the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust (CODOH).[43] In the United States, CODOH has repeatedly tried to place newspaper advertisements questioning whether the Holocaust happened,

    Sylvia Stolz - called the Holocaust “the biggest lie in world history”,

    Ernst Zündel - German[1][2] Holocaust denier.

    Seems the list of people Alan says "tell it like it really was" are not in agreement with you that the author meant that the Holocaust occurred just as the Jews said it did. In fact, the ones who are telling it like "it really was" regard the Holocaust as a big lie which the author supports.

    So tell us again how the author says the Holocaust occurred just as the Jews said it did notme.

    Strange, "the Jewish concept of a Holocaust cannot be denied" doesn't state that it actually occurred, only that the concept of what they believe cannot be refuted, just as I cannot refute the fact that you believe this guy and the list of people he cites that to him tell it like it "really was" somehow actually believe the Holocaust occurred even though many of them spent time in jail for denying that it actually occurred.

    Nope. Just having fun with a denialist who is attempting to even deny he is one by spewing crap from hate sites like it was a serious publication.:roflol:
     
  17. notme

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    And what is the Jewish concept of the holocaust?
    As far as I know, the Jewish concept is that 6 million Jews got murdered.
    I'm not interested in some fake other interpetation of that sentence.

    You're just here to smear and insult.
    As is claimed what hasbara trolls do.
    That sums it all up.
     
  18. DrewBedson

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    Systematically murdered and, gassed by the hundreds of thousands in Auschwitz.

    The vid denies this and, the author brings forth an extensive list of Holocaust deniers to "tell it like it really was" because as he sttes, the gassings could not have taken place. This is hardly in keeping with what the Jews believe is it notme?

    It doesn't seem that your interests go beyond defending hateful antisemitic Holocaust deniers.

    As I said, you are the only one who has been censured for insulting.
     
  19. RoccoR

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    DrewBedson, et al,

    You are you are unnecessarily expending your energy.

    There will always be people who argue the reality of the Holocaust, conspiracy theorists on the Kennedy Assassination, and those holding an alternative premise surrounding the events of 911; as well as --- those that have seen Bigfoot, the Lock Ness Monster, and UFOs. There is simply no way to reason with them.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    Because Arabs give birth to many babies, in the future we will unfortunatly see more and more stupids and bigots which there is
    no way to reason with them.
    They will say what their Imam tells them to say.
     
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    You're just here to smear and insult.
    As is claimed what hasbara trolls do.
    That sums it all up.[/QUOTE]

    You'd be surprised, he has a lot of Zionist sympathizer friends that do the same thing on these boards, although I have a feeling they're not here for monetary reasons. It seems more like blind loyalty because like most Zionists, any factual evidence you present them with can easily be explained as anti semitism.
     
  22. DrewBedson

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    Mood ring Ouija Board what?

    Obviously it must have been somebody else I was discussing things with as you have yet to come up with anything factual. Then again, possibly your 'feelings' might be considered the word of God on lesser venues but here, it is certainly not viewed as fact.
     
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    Honestly drew, you manipulate facts, the facts are the facts and cannot be refuted. Religion of any kind means nothing to me, my feelings are based on the facts on the ground in Palestine. The land of the stolen land.
     
  24. DrewBedson

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    That is correct and, why I post facts , context and links such as I have on this thread. You on the other hand, have yet to post one stinking fact on this entire forum board so please, save your lectures for your Hamasbara brothers.

    I could care less and, I never insinuated or suggested that it did as I stated "your 'feelings' might be considered the word of God on lesser venues" but are considered what they are by yourself the same no matter where you are. In other words, it was what OTHERS condier your unsubstanciated quips to be.

    Yes, the land that was Judea and then overtaken by Arabs and then given back to the Jews by the UN in order to make both an Arab and Jewish state but the Arabs wanted to steal the entire land for themselves and made war to eradicate the Jews.
     
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    My goodness, you seem to be unaware of what you are arguing. The quote is;

    "the Jewish concept of a Holocaust cannot be denied."

    A person can deny the Holocaust all day long and this statement will still ring true as it only states that it is undeniable that the Jews believe the Holocaust to be what they state it is, not that the Holocaust is what they say it is. The possibility that they are wrong is completely open for discussion as depicted by the author in the rest of the video which, is why the vid is even on the internet my dear notme.

    The rest of your post will probably once again be classified as a personal attack so I won't bother responding to it.

    Oh, possibly we can move this to this thread only in order to alleviate the problem of hubris being posted on two threads?
     

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