Israeli military says Hamas hiding tunnels, operations centres in Gaza hospital

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  1. flyboy56

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    Netanyahu made a tough decision to protect Israelis over Palestinians. It’s what leaders are forced to do. It’s war.
     
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    Says the bird that kills Christians, Jews, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government.
     
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    No disputing isee. Noted.

    Btw, isupport the nation of Israel, just not this govt.
     
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    That is called a position of convenience. Its easy to criticize Israeli leadership from the safety of our screens. We see where restraint got them. We see what "land for peace" got them.
     
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    So the hundreds of thousands who marched against net and yahoo in israel before 7th Oct was a figment of my imagination. .
     
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    In Israel, it is safe to publicly criticize government.
     
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    Not the government that decided to defend its citizens rather than lay down and take it up the ***? I’ll support the nation and the government. If Mexico sent rockets into our cities, and attacked our citizens I would 110% support attacking them back.
     
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    BREAKING NEWSFLASH



    This war didn't start on 7th October.
     
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    It's also legal to sell rice.
     
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    Oh… so what did Israel do to deserve this action? This all started in protest to a 2 state resolution by the UN. A resolution that many were for including Israel but Hamas has always been against.

    However this particular war started after the last ceasefire which Hamas broke.
     
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    being born and raised in a concentration camp can have serious implications for a child's psyche but you wouldnt know or care about such it seems.
     
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    Israel doesn’t run Gaza. If it’s concentration camp lifestyle that’s their own fault.
     
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    The ghetto generally rules themself but is trapped within a dominion where it has little control over what comes in or out. Plus they're actually walled in by Israelis, don't forget that little factoid.

    It's literally the biggest concentration camp the world has ever witnessed
     
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    By your definition…. By my definition, they elected their rulers that refused to have elections afterwards. This was their doing. But that FACTOID eludes you.
     
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    You are correct. The war between Arabs and Jews started when Islam was created 500 years after the birth of Christ by a warrior named Muhammad. He convinced his followers that Allah wants all Jews and their promised land to be destroyed. I believe Allah is satan and Muhammad is the antichrist.
     
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    Nah. It started in 1948.

    Jews and Muslims got along splendid during Europe's golden age in Iberia, where Muslims ruled Europe for 600 years. Then when Christians reconquered Iberia, it exiled all of its Muslims and Jews to Africa.
     
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    Lol, what a skewed version of history. First of all, Muhammad was converting Pagans, not Jews. And the vast majority of the conquests of Islam happened after Muhammad was dead.

    There is also a huge distinction between the different Caliphates. The Ummayads saw basically anyone who wasn't Arabic as a second class citizen, whether they were Muslim or not. When the Ummayads were overthrown and the Abbasid Caliphate came to power, Jews were treated quite well, as were Christians. Most of Western Europe, like Britannia and the Carolingian Empire were backwards people compared to how advanced and civilized the Abbasids were.

    Allah and the Jewish/Christian god are the same. Muslims consider Jesus to be a great prophet, thinking of him more highly than Judaism does.

    Your weird beliefs are at the root of why there is so much animosity between people who worship the same god. It is nonsense meant to dehumanize whole cultures in order to make slaughtering them more acceptable. It appears to be doing just that in the middle east now. Congratulations.
     
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    One person isn't the "Palestinians". You're just distracting away from this kind of nonsense since you're not making any difference between civilians and combatants.
     
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    He was the Palestinian leader at the time.
     
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    There were hardly any Jews living in present day Gaza, West Bank and East-Jerusalem to begin with. That was the whole idea from the west. To give Jews the lands where they barely have a majority to speak off, and only hand over land to Arabs where there were hardly any Jews. Subsequently this how the west gerrymandered the place to give as much land for Jews to go live in.

    At best you can say that when the Jews ethnically cleansed 700,000 Arabs out of Israel and thieved their lands, than decades later Arabs did the same thing. But pretend it happened the other way around as if the Jews were right to give a tit for tat. There is of course also a fanatic racist theme to this since somehow ethnic cleansing Palestinians can be justified since non Palestinians did the same thing, but they are Arabs so close enough / they are all and the same.

    But that's of course a dirty zionistic lie to go view it like that. When Israel ethnically cleansed 700,000 Arabs they than held an active policy to draw in as many Jews possible to build new cities and towns on the bulldozered ruins of 100's and 100's of Arab towns and cities. Jews tried to massively move to Israel. This is called "Aliyah". A place like Iraq banned the Jews from going and under international pressure they let them go. Israel arranged their flights. To call this "fleeing" is just an attempt to equate what Jews did to Arabs. But that's an utter disgusting joke.

    Algeria is also very cute example how zionistis toss in lies. Algeria was an integrated part of France's 3rd and 4th republic. In what is now Algeria, was a place where over a million Aryans and Jewish people lived with their French nationality due to their race. Arabs could not be French in that Aryan / Jewish apartheid state. And when the Arabs won their freedom from being violently oppressed by the French, the French went to France. It wasn't anti-Semitic at all. And that violent oppression the Aryan / Jewish French did, were death marches through the desert and concentration camps. And instead of paying for their nazi like war crimes, they chose to get a full pardon in France. So again: To call this "fleeing" is just an attempt to equate what Jews did to Arabs. But that's an utter disgusting joke.

    And you're tossing this all in, to justify Jews ethnically cleansing Arab civilians.


    whataboutism.
     
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    Hardly recognized by the Arabs themselves and he did not even lead any kind of military campaign. So no... you're just deflecting away that 1 man can be seen as "the Palestinians" as what you wrote previously. That clearly was your way to not see Palestinians as civilians.
     
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    That is false.
     
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    Go prove how it is.
     

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