Israeli scientist Daniel Shechtman won the 2011 Nobel Prize in chemistry

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  1. Liebe

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    You are sounding like the King of kings once did. :-D

    Except for the fact that you deny nationality is relevant for 33 pages, yet try to clarify how it really is.

    You are coming across as really invested in this.

    Now I'll depart this thread that has been irrelevant in your view for 33 pages and let you go on about how irrelevant it is. :)
     
  2. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

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    I see you follow the doctorine that say, if you lie enough times, people will start to believe it.
    He studied in Israel as I've already written at the beginning of this thread:
    B.Sc. 1966 (Technion-Israel)
    M.Sc. 1968 (Technion-Israel)
    Ph.D. 1972 (Technion-Israel)
    and has been on the Technion-Israel stuff ever since.
     
  3. Anansi the Spider

    Anansi the Spider Well-Known Member

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    Just a few thoughts:
    1) Is it possible that a pro-Jewish bias exists within the Nobel Committees? I mean Jewish people are influential in the media and the academic establishment not to mention the World Bank and the IMF. Is it possible to suggest that they are capable of influencing the Nobel award?

    This guy claims bias exists: The Jewish Bias in the Nobel Prize

    I think everyone would agree that some of the awards are politically motivated.

    2) Technology is certainly not an unmixed blessing. Science empowers bad people along with the good. Those suffering through traffic jams or aerial bombardment or a Barbara Streisand movie might be skeptical of the benefits of technology.

    3) Attempts to justify Israeli murder of civlians are becoming increasingly outlandish. As are the excuses why the American taxpayer must be compelled to pay Israel's bills.
     
  4. moon

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    Depart ? You've been evicted. Come back with the invisible evidence and use it in your hopeless case.
     
  5. moon

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    Again, his major work and discoveries took place in America. Nobody has denied that he was associated with Technion. He just didn't actually cut it whilst in Israel.
     
  6. free man

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    twisting some more will get you nowhere. I've just proved you wrong, so you try another swist.
    He saw the phenomina first when he was on sabatical in the US. Reporting it made his team leader throw him from the group.
    The whole study was done in Israel.
     
  7. Tyrerik

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    The context of forum quotes are linked. If you are accusing me of misrepresenting you then you need to explain. I am naturally well aware that Africa is not a nation, now why is that relevant? Didn't you consider the Africa bashing looking racist because of the ethnicity of most Africans? Wouldn't this look racist: Africa is the last vestige of nazism, smelly little racist colonies devoted to murder and theft?
     
  8. moon

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    Have a good ass-kicking;

    Clearly, his award-winning work was conducted in America. :mrgreen:
     
  9. free man

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    Clearly you did not bother to read the full story how his group leader kicked his ass back to Israel for his stupid observations. Yes those observations he later got his Novel for. The work on them was done in Israel.

    "I told everyone who was ready to listen that I had material with pentagonal symmetry. People just laughed at me," Shechtman says

    One day, the administrative director of his research group approached him. "He gave a sheepish smile, placed a textbook on my desk and said, 'Please read what's written here.' I told him that I taught my students from the book, but that I also knew that we're dealing with something that exceeded the book's understanding," Shechtman says. The director returned 24 hours later and asked him to leave the research group, because he was "bringing disgrace" on the members.

    At the end of 1983, following the conclusion of his sabbatical, Shechtman returned to the Technion. Only one person was ready to listen in earnest: Prof. Ilan Blech, from the Technion's Faculty of Materials Science. He suggested that the two of them work together on the discovery. Within a short time he developed a model that derives the phenomenon from a pentagonal symmetry, which is one of the rotational symmetries of a three-dimensional body called an icosahedron - an entity composed of 20 identical equilateral triangular faces. Shechtman now felt sufficiently confident to publish an article on the subject....
     
  10. moon

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    Falling out with the admin. had naff-all to do with the FACT that his work was carried out in the USA. :mrgreen: He was asked to sling his hook because of the work he had carried out in the USA- you've just said so yourself AGAIN !

    Anyway, good luck to him. I'm a lifelong fan of Quadrophenia and Pentangle myself. Nevertheless, the chap was born in Palestine (fact ) and made his important discoveries in America ( fact ). He is also , undeniably, an Israeli national- as a further punt to the strange claims of member Liebe. :mrgreen:
     
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    if you think that, its no wonder you are so confused about so much.

    you didn't even provide a link to the post or the thread in which I stated that. what was the content of the OP?

    You claim that you know Africa is not a nation - but do you think it is fair and reasonable to lump today's Rwanda in with Zimbabwe - just because both populations are black Africans?
     
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    The little blue "greater than" icon after the bold name of the poster in a quote links to the original context. I suggest a little humility on your part would not go amiss.

    Yes it is quite reasonable to generalise about Africa given the right context however it was you who lumped today's Rwanda in with Zimbabwe when you referred to Africa bashing. Do you think its fair to lump Zimbabwians of European extraction together with Mbuti of the Congo? This is of course all a diversion as what is fair to generalise about is irrelevant to why you make a distinction between Jews association to Israel and Blacks to Africa when it comes to racism/antisemetism.
     
  13. Bishadi

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    your statement not mine.

    i could care less which state is claimed.

    read the science sections as well perhaps read my posts versus whine and call yourself an idiot
    good for you
     
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    go back to the conext of the thread you were referring to.

    not much point in discussing this until you do that.
     
  15. WanRen

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    Once an Israelis always an Israeli, just like you are a Palestinian you'll always be a Palestinian that is why you display a Palestinian flag.

    Israel contribution to the world especially to the Middle East has been progressively constructive, Israelis have share their technological knowledge in converting deserts to oasis, advancement of medicine and science that Israelis share with their neighbours including their enemies.
     
  16. Liebe

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    Is Moon still embarassing himself here by trying to show that the country in which a person worked/studied/reasearched for a period takes anything away from such person's nationality or is in any way relevant at all?

    Now tell me again how it does not matter that he is Israeli and that is why 34 pages of attempting to to deny that it matters, matters. :mrgreen:
     
  17. Bishadi

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    kind of like "once a lying moron, still lying like a moron'?
    funny,.............. zionist took over an occupied land, to make an israel

    If they can do what you just said, then perhaps move them to the sahara and they can have a bigger country!
    most scientific minds do not follow the rules of state.

    Your methodology would be like 'nazis' are who created the nuclear age, since einstein was in germany.
     
  18. Bishadi

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    actually, the monkeys keep bringing up the scope of citizenship when it has already been evidenced he was born in palestine, identified the 'crystal' in america and is now an israeli citizen but for some reason the idiots keep going back to attacking members, perhaps because they are bored with progress and facing reality as it is.
     
  19. Liebe

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    You are attacking people by calling them idiots.

    He is Israeli.

    It desn't matter (unless you keep trying to disprove that, which you keep doing). If it really doesn't matter why not let it go?
     
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    You've been challenged to produce any evidence that I denied the dude was an Israeli national. You've fallen on your ass in that respect. What are you doing back here without it ?
     
  21. WanRen

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    I guess you can look at that too, that is why Israelis or Jews small number as they maybe their worldwide achievement is astonishing, Jews = smart = chosen people.

    Zionist liberated an occupied land back to the nation of Israel.

    Sahara is not part of Israel, but Israel will be willing to help the Muslims develop the sahara desert.

    True, only the anti Jews or racist people does.

    Eisntein was a Jew or Israeli too.
     
  22. Bishadi

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    remembr moon, the lying idiots are the unevolved monkeys that cannot sustain any integrity within a dialogue.
     
  23. Bishadi

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    And if you aint jew, you must be stupid?

    Is that the resolve to your reasoning?

    I would actually, see it, the idiot is the moron that aint 'one of them' but is putting 'them' on a pedestal above themselves.

    palestine, never was israel before 48' but few morons can be honest with themselves

    and i dont think they really know better

    what?
     
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    I would not get that far, since even the Muslim's Koran disagree with your statement, not to talk about Christians and Jews holy books.
     
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    again, a religious book is what the unevolved use to sustain their claims

    sad

    a free man, dont use religion do sustain truth

    But you might!
     

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