Issue with being prolife and anti-welfare

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by SunnyL, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Not all abortions are homicides, just as not all homicides are murders.
     
  2. Whaler17

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    This is completely false, as I have proven repeatedly. ALL abortions are clearly homicides.

    Once again, how can you claim a fetus is less than a human being just because of his/her age? It is the equivalent of considering an adult a human being but not an infant.
     
  3. Blasphemer

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    Its not because of the age, but other properties, such as lack of mind.

    We can kill all people with no mind inside with no consequences, no matter their age (also adult braindead people after accidents or illness, not only embryos).
     
  4. Blasphemer

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    Its not because of the age, but other properties, such as lack of mind.

    We can kill all people with no mind inside with no consequences, no matter their age (also adult braindead people after accidents or illness, not only embryos).
     
  5. prometeus

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    No, you asserted repeatedly and just like the assertion about UVVA defining fetuses you were wrong.

    No, they clearly are not in most cases. They CAN be in some isolated cases.
     
  6. Whaler17

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    That is clearly arbitrary and clearly NOT what defines a human being as all have existed in a stage prior to brain develpoment!
     
  7. Whaler17

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    A child in utero at any stage of development. What part of that are you having trouble with?

    You obviously do not know what the definition of homicide is!
     
  8. prometeus

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    No trouble at all. I know what a definition is while clearly you do not.

    Actually I know that too and abortion is not it.
     
  9. prometeus

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    What defines a human being?
     
  10. Blasphemer

    Blasphemer Well-Known Member

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    This. You ignored my other thread about what attributes should a system with rights (such as right to live) have. What exactly defines a person?
     
  11. Blasphemer

    Blasphemer Well-Known Member

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    Why should brainless humans have rights at all? Our bodies have all existed in such state in the past, but that does not mean we should have had rights in such state.
     
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    I did not ignore it, I was merely asking whaler and as you can see he did not answer here or in your thread or anywhere else for that matter. He has been asked the very same question innumerable times and has not been able to answer it once. I was just making that point.
     
  13. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The definition of homicide has no relation to the definition of a fetus.
     
  14. Blasphemer

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    My mistake, that was meant for Whaler17.
     
  15. Blasphemer

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    You ignored my other thread about what attributes should a system with rights (such as right to live) have. What exactly defines a person?
     
  16. Whaler17

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    You clearly do not in either case.
     
  17. Whaler17

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    A human organism , how many times to I have to explain this to you?
     
  18. Whaler17

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    Why should we deprive humans of rights because of their stage of development or age?
     
  19. Whaler17

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    :laughing:

    Obviously you haven't read my posts.
     
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    That is idiotic! A fetus is a person, killing a fetus/person is a homicide. Those are facts.
     
  21. prometeus

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    Ah, you still can't answer it intelligently. why do you even bother? "A human being is defined by a human organism"
    Where you you come up with this level of idiocy?
     
  22. prometeus

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    Of course I reads them just like everyone else and they still lack any relevant or intelligent content.
     
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    No still not, but keep trying the magic may happen any day now...
     
  24. Blasphemer

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    Why shouldnt we deprive humans of rights when they dont have a mind (and it benefits humans with mind)? Whats wrong with killing brainless humans, or any brainless life? Its not like it would care, it has nothing to care with.

    Our rights stem from our mind, not body or genetic code. Thats just a vessel for the mind. Without it, it has no intrinsic value.
     
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    The family needs to relocate next to the hospital that provides the services and then flights would not be needed , I feel sorry for the family , these folks need our help .
     

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