Issue with being prolife and anti-welfare

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by SunnyL, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    So rights are recognized based on being a human being; therefore, you will need to explain why human rights should be REVOKED for human beings that don't meet whatever criteria you wish to use.
     
  2. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Your silly denial means nothing whatsoever, just makes you look even sillier.
     
  3. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Well that is an interesting opinion, but is it OK to kill at will someone who we think has limited or no mental capacity? What about severly mentally handicapped people, OK to slaughter them at will?
     
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    Thats your opinion. I think rights are recognized based on having a mind.

    Because when you kill human with no mind, no sentient being suffers or is denied something he wants. Just like when you destroy a mindless rock. But when you outlaw abortion, a sentient being suffers - the woman who wants one. If we want to maximise wellbeing (minimise suffering) of sentient beings, abortion of mindless fetuses should be allowed. Not even talking about ESC therapy.

    It is not OK to kill someone who has limited mental capacity (still has mind, only crippled).
    It is indeed OK to kill something which has NO mental capacity (no mind) - like plants, braindead people or fetuses in first trimester.
     
  5. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    It has been show to you repeatedly, your inability grasp it and rationalize it does not alter the facts.
     
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    prometeus Banned

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    Do not evade, your posts are simply devoid of support for any of your assertions and that is why anytime you are asked for evidence you reply with idiocy.
     
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    What is idiotic is you repeating the same lie over and over and over. Facts do not change because you wish them to, they remain and remain unaltered. Fetuses were never persons and abortion was never homicide.
     
  8. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    I am not the one who is denying reality and facts, but your denials make you look BRILLIANT...
     
  9. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Well in actual reality, You are the one. :roll:
     
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    prometeus Banned

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    Struggling with making coherent sentences too, eh?
     
  11. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and you can answer the same question, Whaler, seeing you support the death penalty.
     
  12. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    I do? Show me whatever proof you think you have of this.

    But OBVIOUSLY there is a reason to revoke the rights of someone who have taken the life of another in a particularly heinous way, which is when that penalty is applied!
    The fact that it is called a "penalty" should be a clue to any thinking person.
     
  13. Whaler17

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    See what I mean people. :roll:
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats what amazes me about conservatives in this country; they'll pull out all stops to save the life of an unborn child, yet once the child is born they could care less what happens. And those so-called "crapload" of govt programs are constantly under attack to be done away with.
     
  15. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    REALLY? Yet they still exist even after Republicans ruled both Congress and the White House simultaneously. Your comments seem quite Kool aid induced!
    Wanting to take fraud out of the system is not the same as wanting to do away with them. Democrats don't mind the fraud. The more people getting money from the programs the more votes the programs buy.
     
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  17. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It still doesn't change the fact that once born human life is secondary under conservative platform.
     
  18. Whaler17

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    It is a myth, quite obviously.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You and I will have to agree to disagree on this topic.
     
  20. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    I agree that you are wrong. :lol:
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, Whaler, you are so agreeable, I'm speechless.
     
  22. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    I have a hard time believing that!:laughing:
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, if you say so, then you're NOT agreeable.
     
  24. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Wait - are you saying that you don't even agree with yourself?

    That's a new one!:omg:
     
  25. Whaler17

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    I have to disagree with that assertion. :grin:
     

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