It's Time For Full UN Membership For Palestine

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  1. WillReadmore

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    https://www.voanews.com/a/palestinian-authority-could-seek-full-un-membership-this-year/7433254.html

    The last time they applied, it took a US veto in the UNSC to block membership. The US has consistently vetoed any UNSC resolution that Israel doesn't like - a gross imbalance of power, and clear and consistent support for Israel's genocide.

    Surely people can see today that Israel's direction in Gaza and West Bank is purely one of genocide for gaining real estate.

    The US position has been that any resolution to that conflict must come from negotiations between Palestine and Israel. But, that is TOTAL BS. Israel doesn't even recognize Palestine as an entity. Plus, Israel is hugely powerful give the massive US military support - while undermining Palestine.

    So, here we are in the ICJ, watching country after major country point out the devastation of Israel's years of genocide and demanding a halt.

    While the US stands by in support of genocide.

    This issue is not going away. The USA is establishing what we stand for, and that will NEVER be forgotten or forgiven.
     
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    What and where is Palestine? Show us on the map.
     
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    1 percent of the population reported killed doesn't sound like genocide.
     
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    That is NOT what they are doing.

    They are carrying out genocide - both in West Bank and in Gaza.

    They have been bombing the civilian population in Gaza from the start, and they are wiping out all structures to ensure there is no possibility of return.
     
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    Genocide doesn't requiring killing everyone. The Nazi genocide didn't kill all of any of the peoples that they slaughtered, for example.

    They are wiping out Palestine. They are carrying out their Zionist genocide that they declared in 1997 as being from the sea to the Jordan.
     
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    Why should Palestine have full UN membership? They have failed to form a state.

    More likely, the pro-Palestinians want to sic the UN on Israel and use the international community to fight their battles for them. It won't work because the UN will never have any impact on the situation on the ground. And they are going about it the wrong way.

    Until the Palestinians are ready to have a sincere meeting with Israel to solve their differences, they are just going to stay in the same position with nothing being solved.
     
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    Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Israel is 100% justified in their actions. Hamas hides among the civilians, using them as human shields, and the people of Gaza support them. Killing each and every single one of them is the only way it will ever end.
     
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    They've been doing that since the 1930's and 40's.

    This is not new.

    Now they are bombing civilians in Lebanon.....and have been bombing Syria for a long time.

    Israel is a cancer that needs to be moved to the Outback in Australia.

    The US was arming nazis in ukraine for 8 years while they committed genocide against ethnic Russians before Russia finally had enough.

    So it should come as no surprise that the US would support the Zionist's campaigns of genocide as well.

    The MIC and deep state is out of control.
     
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    So not that many are dying but they’re being wiped out. How does that work?
     
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    Ah, so Palestine is Gaza.

    That's what you didn't want to say.
     
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    This Pile of [​IMG]

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    gainst the FACT of Israel
    Taking out 30,000 citizens
    - mostly innocent women and children
    And shooting them like Rabbits in a field when they Desperately
    ........................................ seek a few scraps of food for their children


    All done to fulfil the clearly Stated Intentions of their Government

    The Zionists who now control Israel have become that very
    Repulsive, Evil THING that they themselvews Hate & Fear

    All of the Filthy Propaganda dug up out of Hell itself will NOT wash this away
     
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    The state of Palestine is recognized by nearly 200 separate nations.

    The UNSC evaluated Palestine and certified that Palestine had the structures in place to qualify for UN membership.

    They aren't full members, because the USA vetoed.

    They now have observer state membership in the UN, which gives them access to many UN organs. That move could be made by the UN, because the USA does not have vetoe power in the General Assembly.

    It is Israel who refuses negotiations - NOT Palestine.

    You've missed out on a LOT of history!!
     
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    ??? Palestine is West Bank + Gaza.

    Why wouldn't I want to say that?
     
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    Israel is slaughtering tens of thousands of civilians. They are dropping bombs on what Israel stated were safe places for Palestinians to run to. They are destroying water, electricity, fuel, housing, hospitals, food, and they are bulldozing Gaza flat. There is no economy. Palestinians remain inside the walls in which Israel has kept Palestinians for decades - as humans in a concentration camp.

    Now, they prevent adequate food to be delivered to the starving population.

    There isn't ANY question about whether this is genocide.
     
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    Well, it's hard to imagine what should be done with the Israeli war criminals.

    But, like with the Nazis and Hamas, it is criminal to punish the population.
     
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    So are they not being killed much and it’s genocide or are they being wiped out and it’s genocide? Pick one
     
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    You didn't answer before. I appreciate you probably had other things to do...

    I think that would be a reasonable case for Palestine. But if there were a hope for that it is paper thin now.
     
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    The laws is the same now as it has been from the start.

    And, the fact that Israel herded more than a MILLION Palestinians into Raffa and then opened up on them with bombs, tanks and ground troops does NOT change what has to happen.

    And, that goes for the atrocities Israel has been carrying out in West Bank. That is PALESTINIAN land. PERIOD.

    As for the USA, we are responsible for arming and protecting Israel as they carry out atrocities that will NEVER be forgotten.

    And, neither will US participation in those massive crimes of slaughter.

    What does the world believe we stand for now?
     
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    Its ethnic cleansing, not genocide.
     
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    The same UN organizations that had their funding cut for taking part in Hamas' attack against Israel? The UN looks like a front organization more and more every day.

    And what about Palestinians policing their society for militants and terrorists? They have failed from day one. And Israel has had to get involved and take out the bad elements every day. Remember all of those suicide attacks blowing up buses in Israel from decades ago? That is what happens if Israel doesn't get involved in police actions against militants and terrorists hiding among the Palestinians.

    I'm not the one who missed history.
     
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    Yes, yes you are.
    Why would Palestine police themselves when the ones harming them are Israel? Israel needs to police itself, but unfortunately the terrorist in chief, Netanyahu, is running the show.
    Luckily many Israelis are aware that they have an extremist running their country, who cares more about staying in office than human lives. He is even sacrificing Israeli hostages to keep the war going. He knows as soon as it is over, her will be voted out and likely face jail time for crimes against humanity.
    The IDF are the bad elements. Hopefully the Israeli people will police their own and begin arresting the IDF, Netanyahu, and the other leaders in the terrorist organization that is the Likud party.
     
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    This right here says it all. No need to go any further. Palestine absolutely needs to police themselves. That is one of the main roadblocks to peace.

    No need to go into Israel. The last time they tried a soft approach under a liberal government they got suicide bombings on their public transit busses. There's a reason why Netenyaho got elected and why he is also the head of Israel's war cabinet.

    The Palestinians are responsible for causing or not preventing every militant group in their midst from organizing against Israel. Every Israeli incursion into Gaza or the West Bank in the past 10 years has been in response to a threat.

    Palestinians absolutely need to police themselves.
     
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    hey genius, why do you think those threats come into existence? Think real hard now...
     

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