It's Time For Full UN Membership For Palestine

@Josh77 & @WillReadmore you should first study the definitions of "siege" and "blockade", then look at a map of Gaza and pretty please explain how can Israel lay a siege on all of Gaza.

 

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They've been doing it for a couple DECADES!

Maybe you should figure out what's going on.

 

There is no siege. Hundreds of trucks pass through the border every day after being inspected by Israel for war materials. The naval blockade only occurred after Hamas committed an act of war and a war crime by launching rockets into Israeli civilian neighborhoods starting in 2007. The naval blockade is an act of defense and completely acceptable under international law. Israel is responsible for the safety of their citizens.

 

Siege - the surrounding of a place by an armed force in order to defeat those defending it
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/siege

How can the Israeli army surround Gaza, if Gaza shares a border with Egypt?

 

I thought you knew something about the ME.

Now you tell me you don't. I'll go with that.

 

Me thinks you vaguely remember the Philadelphi corridor and the Philadelphi Accord and believe that Israel has been controlling the whole route since 2005. Not true.

 

Its a lot more likely to happen than Palestine 1) continuing to exist post war and 2) getting the 1948 border from before they ****ed around and found out back.

Foreign fighters? How? I thought you were one of the people complaining of the TUURRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEE blockade that cut Palestine off from the world?
Do these fighters teleport? Or are you admitting that many UNRWA employees are just terrorist recruits?

 

That's what you would call a skill issue.

Its like the people trying to defend the Houthi pirates claiming "well they haven't killed anyone!!". Its not for a lack of trying, and its the thought that counts in casus belli.

 

Lol, they don't announce their presence. Apparently you don't have much experience fighting insurgencies. When I was in Iraq, we would have Iranian and Syrian fighters crossing the borders all the time, as well as people sneaking munitions and rockets and whatnot across. Some we could intercept, many we could not. Just the very fact that we were in Iraq brought the foreign fighters in, and they are not easy to detect and intercept. The solution? Don't ****ing be in a country you don't belong in. Same goes for Israel in Palestine. There would be a hell of a lot less insurgent and terrorist attacks if Israel allowed full rights, including a standing military and full access to ports, to Palestine. Denying those basic things creates the extremism and violence we see now, as paradoxical as it seems to reduce violence by allowing a military to exist. People get crazy when you deny them basic rights, and for good reason.

 

No, its what you call one side being supplied by a superpower with a blank check, and the other a tiny, besieged group of people that are treated as second class citizens.

 

Yes, that's known as a skill issue.

All the more reason that the Palestinians should not **** around and find out. They demand existentialist wars to the knife with their rather economically and militarily superior neighbor and then complain when they get ****ed to death in response.

 

So the blockade ain't so blocakdey eh?

If Palestine could go 4 years without violating a cease fire by indiscriminately attacking civilians, maybe they would be treated like something other than a rabid dog.

 

If the Israelis could go one month without abusing Palestinians, detaining them illegally, bulldozing their homes, and starving them, maybe they wouldn't have a reason to resist. I know if I was oppressed like the Palestinians are, I'd be a resistance fighter as well. I would hope any American would. Hell, Britain was not oppressing us nearly as badly as the Israelis oppress the Palestinians, and we started an insurgency against them that ended in victory. To support Israel in its slaughter is truly unAmerican.

 

Sure the Israeli's have just no reason to act as if they are under siege conditions with a warlike neighbor who continuously violates cease fires without announcement other than lobbing rockets and bullets at innocent civilians and taking slaves to publicly torture, rape, and mutilate to death. Its not like their neighbor has been demanding they be wiped from existence for more than 50 years and doing its best to get the job done despite its constant ineptitude.
O.. Wait.... that's exactly what's been going on.

You can straight up perform anatomically improbable sex acts with common farm chattels before any one gives one single solitary fat fiddler's **** about what you think is or is not unAmerican.

 

It is Hamas who is abusing Gazan civilians.

 

Bwahahaha..sounds like I hit a nerve. Keep trucking with your unAmerican nonsense, promoting oppression over freedom.

 

You're sitting there supporting an avowed terrorist regime that hasn't allowed elections since it was emplaced, which in its most recent instance of cease fire violating perfidy, kidnapped little girls from their homes and cut their tits off while raping them in the street so roughly they turned her knees the wrong ****ing way.
And you have the temerity to claim me supporting their victims responding to this casus belli with war is in some way inimical to American values.

As to striking a nerve: You're the one in here crusading for a terrorist group that started an existentialist war to the knife with its neighbor over perceived racial and sectarian differences, and complaining when the poor little dears are perforated alongside their supporters.
Continue to cry, I find your tears wonderful.

 

Look at you, buying into the propaganda of an oppressive, tyrannical regime like a good little brainwashed citizen. You can't even recognize that you have been manipulated into supporting the side that is crushing freedom. I hope one day you wake up and start to think for yourself, and actually supporting the ideals America stands for. Freedom to live your life, free of oppression. You'll figure it out one day, but for now, you are supporting one of the most tyrannical regimes on the planet.

 

Hamas is a terrorist organization. Israel is a parliamentary democracy. You are condemning Israel and by doing so supporting Hamas and the Hamas policy of using human shields resulting in deaths of Gazan civilians for which you blame Israel. The Hamas dead baby strategy continues because it works thanks to those bleeding heart lefties who think that they are advocating for a reduction in civilian deaths. But just the opposite is the result. But all this seems lost on you. Why is that?

 

A democracy for Israelis, not for the people they are crushing under their tyrannical boots. Granted, Hamas isn't much better, but it is not Hamas killing tens of thousands of innocents, is it? Over the last 15 years, Israel has killed 20 times as many as Hamas. Israel has slaughtered thousands and thousands more babies than Hamas has, but, you don't really care about babies, do you? That is just the emotional ploy you use, knowing full well that Israel has left far more babies dead, and continues to kill more as we speak. Israels policies simply guarantees that violence will continue...the height of stupidity. Even the Israelis themselves are waking up and realizing that Bibi has screwed them, and even dimwitted Biden has realized that he is supporting a monster...but not you. You are cheering the slaughter of babies.

 

That wasn't an "accord". It was a name created and enforced by the IDF.

Gaza has not even been allowed to EXPORT.

 

The UNRWA claims made by Israel are totally debunked. Israel created that lie, presumably to end aid to the civilian population.

And, yes. A blockade IS war and has continued for decades. It's a well known way of choking off a people to the point of food insecurity and economic collapse.

 

The fact that there are Hamas in Gaza (and outside Gaza) does not justify genocide.

We have laws about group punishment.

The fact that they are there doesn't suggest that every civilian is guilty and must be starved.

 

Israel is crushing no one. Wake up.

 

Another comment from fantasy land.