It's Time For Full UN Membership For Palestine

All names were/are created by humans. And yes, it was an accord. Google it.

Have you ever tried to google "Gaza exports"?

 

Yes - it is a NAME for a corridor created by Israel and Egypt - it demarks the barracade.

I don't see what your point is here.

As for trade, The International Trade Administration and others tend to group Gaza with West Bank.

The reason is that it is Palestine.

 

There is no nation state of Palestine. There never has been a nation state of Palestine.

 

Palestine is an observer state of the UN.

For international measurement of economics, Palestine includes Gaza and West Bank.

 

Palestine is not a nation state. There never has been a nation state known as Palestine.

The West Bank is a territory which Israel controls as a consequence of the 1967 six day war. The PLO acts as an administrator for the West Bank. Israel provides security for the PLO in the West Bank and border control with Jordan and Syria.

Israel completely pulled out of Gaza which is also a territory that Israel controlled as a consequence of the 1967 war, Israel left Gaza in 2005. Hamas violently took control of Gaza in 2006 and has been attacking Israel continuously ever since.

The PLO has been granted observer status which is meaningless.

 

Yes, their method of leaving left Gaza with the view that they had chased Israel out of their land.

After all, there was no negotiation - Israel just ran away.

No, Israel has captured land along the Jordon River and chased Palestinians from their homes and agriculture and coopted their source of water.

You can't find anything good that Israel has done - they have perpetually treated Palestinians as non-humans that have absolutely NO rights - including to LIFE.

 

Israel waved the lives of hundreds (possibly thousands) of American pilots during the Vietnam War.

 

??? What is THAT about?

Do you think they earned credits for the USA to help Israel administer their genocide???

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

And, I was asking for anything Israel has done that is positive for Palestine.

 

You did not specify that

 

The events of history are clear regardless of any faith based narratives. It's disappointing that a terrorist organization with genocide as the basis of their charter is indemnified and parliamentary democracies are condemned for defending their citizens. The events of history are clear.

 

Cite please.

 

It is astounding that history is ignored. Israel has been repeatedly attacked since the day that the United Nations partition plan was implemented in 1947, Israel has been continuously attacked by Hamas since 2005. Israel has acted to defend its civilian citizens. And regardless of the 7 decades old historical record we get the above?

 

The genocidal Hamas charter has been cited multiple times.

 

My point is that the Egyptian soldiers at the Gaza border are not in the IDF, hence IDF can't possibly surround Gaza.

No siege, sorry.

And no, closing borders of own country is not a siege.

*deep, deep sigh*

You don't really want to find info on exports from Gaza, do you?

Even the UN grudgingly acknowledges that Gaza is not under siege.
https://www.ochaopt.org/content/movement-and-out-gaza-update-covering-august-2023

 

It is Israel that blocks aid coming it at the Rafah border.

It is NOT EGYPT. There are literally hundreds of aid trucks and Israel allows in a TINY fraction - far to little to save the starving people. Not even half the aid Gaza got before October, yet the need is FAR larger now that water, electricity, fuel, food, sanitary and other systems have been bombed to dust in the genocide.

Israel just blocked an entire semi coming in because the medical supplies for treating children included SCISSORS!!!

Israel blocked a semi that included some sanitary pads for women.

One more time>>> It is ISRAEL who is blocking aid coming in through the Rafah border, and the result is EXACTLY as desired. People, including children, are starving to death and are dying of wounds inflicted by IDF tanks, RPGs, bombs and rifles.

There is a video from the IDF that shows a person with a bicycle and bag of flour being hit with an RPG fired by an IDF soldier. The shooting at people trying to get aid isn't just the one case - it's becoming standard practice.

Israel shot a 13yo playing with fireworks. The IDF took him to an Israeli hospital where he died. Now, they refuse to return his body to his mother!!! They state that the kid must be buried on Israel territory where the mother can not visit.


Israel has TOTALLY lost any respect.

And your cheap BS about Rafah is exactly what is expectable from a government that has totally lost its morality.

 

Israel has worked out an agreement with Egypt to inspect truckloads at the checkpoint at the Gaza - Egypt border. That has been in effect for years.

Gazan citizens are praying for the day in which the IDF can finally rid the Gazan civilians of the remaining 3000 genocidal terrorist members of Hamas.

Fake news manufactured to support the faith based narrative that Israel is evil for defending its citizens against the genocidal terrorist organization of Hamas funded by the equally genocidal terrorist nation of Iran.

 

Source?

Prove your assertion about Rafah.

 

If you give material aid and comfort to the terrorist group IE you're a supporter that shelters, feeds, hides them etc., you're just a gang member like they are.

I don't see a lot of narcing going on, sounds like there are a lot of collaborators. That's not group punishment, 1st. 2nd: They're non-uniformed combatants so most of those laws you're about to cite don't apply.

The actual civilians are free to narc out the locations of the collaborators.

 

There was a ****ing command center for Hamas under a UNRWA facility. Come off it.

Except they had access through Egypt the entire time, so you can try that line on someone more gullible than I.

As to insecurity: They were turned over a world renowned greenhouse facility that was fully functional, with spares.
When they took over, the stupid ****ers burned it the **** down and stole the spares for scrap.
O no!! Its the consequences of their own actions!!! Someone help the poor little terrorists!!

 

Oppression? You mean like when Hamas throws gays off of roofs or supports FGM? Or when they invade a sovereign nation they've agreed to peace with, kidnap little girls, brutally rape them so hard they turn their legs inside out, chop their tits off, and parade the corpse through the streets while random women celebrate this savagery.
Spare me.
Keep stumping for a terrorist org that would gladly kill you if it had the opportunity.

 

Not even Israel has stated that.

 

Why would they narc out the people that are fighting the people that are slaughtering their civilians by the tens of thousands? That is exactly how you get them NOT to tell us anything.
It was the same thing in Iraq. When the people hated us, they would not give us anything at all. When we made an effort to build strong ties and cooperation with the locals, winning hearts and minds, they would dime out insurgents and foreign fighters like crazy.
Nobody is going to give information to the people they perceive as the enemy, and rightly so.

 

We're hearing nothing but what Israel states. Journalists in Gaza have a high death rate. Israel is opposed to sufficient aid reaching civilians in Palestine, leaving the population starving to death. That is the plan. It's called "genocide".

The access through Egypt is highly limited at the discretion of Israel, as Egypt isn't going to undermine Israel direction.

Yes, after Israel left there was an outpouring of hate for anything Israeli given Israel's behavior while in Gaza. Obviously, the destruction of greenhouses was bad. But, for years Gaza had been denied any form of government capable of leading Gaza.

 

You know as well as everybody else that Palestine desired to wipe out Israel and control the entirety of the land. The Palestinians are just worse at strategy and military.

 

This is not true.

There are historical documents to that effect, but it has not been a current objective.

If you disagree, CITE the document.

On the other hand, Israel just mowed down Palestinians who were waiting the arrival of aid at the Kuwaiti roundabout it Gaza City.

So far it appears 21 were killed and 150 wounded.

And, it absolutely IS the case that Netanyahu's Likud party has stated they Israel will own from the river to the sea.

Look at their charter.