Jack has had enough.

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  1. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    Well stated. Good enough for a "slogan" ;-)
     
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    You got the last word.
     
  3. Noone

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    You guys are quoting right wing authors published on right wing sites quoting extreme right sources like the University of Chicago. IF this is all you read how do propose to come up with any truth of the matter?

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    Donald Trump faces four criminal indictments in four different cities as he vies to reclaim the White House. These cases, totaling 91 felony counts, are winding through the courts at different speeds. Let’s delve into the details:

    1. Hush-Money Trial:
    2. Efforts to Overturn Election Results:
    3. Stowing Classified Documents:
    4. Civil Fraud Verdict:
    Interestingly, a majority of Americans believe that the quartet of criminal charges against Trump is valid45. As he campaigns for a return to the White House, these legal battles remain a significant part of his political landscape.


    The truth is, President Biden hasn't and doesn't have a thing to do with the charges against tRaitor tRump, they were ALL brought by Grand Juries after they were presented with evidence and testimony. TRaitor tRump's criminal behavior is the architect of his legal troubles. <-period
     
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  4. yardmeat

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    Try looking at her attempts to interfere with the warrant in the first place.
     
  5. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An unqualified judge? I've been assured such things are unpossible! Jan 6 'insurrection', no election fraud, Trump property values... the list goes on. If judges can be 'unqualified', that opens up quite a large can of worms. Do you really want those worms gettin out?
     
  6. Noone

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    But it's your cans that are full of worms ... so ... sure!
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All cans of worms are full of worms.

    ...are we talking about the same thing?

    I've never proposed that judges are infallible. Yet I have been assured many times that election fraud never effected the outcome of an election, insurrection was attempted on Jan 6, taxes arent theft and gun regulations dont infringe on the right to bear arms, all because of how judges ruled on cases involving those issues.

    But maybe there's more than one 'unqualified' judge...

    I prefer my worms fresh, not canned ;)
     
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  8. Noone

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    I don't know are we, are you saying that the judges that determined that tRaitor tRump had no standing in his suits to challenge the election? Because most of them were former tRaitor tRump supporters and/or were appointed by him.

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    I'm sure you do. Me, worms are for the garden
     
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  9. modernpaladin

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    I've also never suggested Trump has the best picks. Some are awful.

    Got anymore strawmen to prop up?
     
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  10. MiaBleu

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    Yes. Sometimes the can HAS to be opened in order to maintain the integrity of the legal system, which is the structure that so much relies on. The legal system is the backbone of the society, Accountability in every profession is imperative.
     
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    Judge Cannon has denied Jack Smith’s demand for finalized jury instructions now. She informed him that doing so prior to a charge conference and presentation of trial defenses and evidence would be “unprecedented” and “unjust.” Sorry Jack, don’t get to demand to treat this trial differently than every other trial in America like you can in DC. This is basically her way of informing Jack that he’s a moron. Jury instructions are based on the evidence and testimony provided at the trial. Smith wanted them finalized before the trial so that he could appeal them ahead of time if he didn’t like them. Demanding the finalized instructions rather the temporary proposed instructions based on the information they have now is a non-starter and would corrupt the trial, something Jack Smith is obviously trying to do.. like he has been doing elsewhere. The reason proposed preliminary instructions were asked about on certain elements was because this is a complex case of first impression and both sides have extremely different positions on the applicable statutes and the application to the indictment.

    She also reminded him that the Presidential Records Act applies to the president. That’s kind of the whole point of that legislation. Jack Smith wants to live in a world where there is no PRA or any precedent because it’s very harmful to his talking points. He argued that Trump never told anyone he interviewed that he was invoking his powers or got approval from someone to do so, as if that’s required under the PRA. It’s not. The courts have already decided that and the PRA says otherwise. She put Jack Smith back in his place and made it obvious to anyone following the motions that he’s an unhinged prosecutor who is desperately trying to corrupt this process. Accordingly, she invited him to appeal her decision, LOL.

    She also denied Trump’s motion to dismiss.
     
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    Her functional illiteracy involving the PRA aside, this isn't going to go well for her. Jack has the upper hand here.
     
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    Only on MSNBC and in the minds of extremists. He has no legitimate grounds to appeal anything she has done. It won’t go anywhere. Any nonsensical appeals Jack makes will just slow the prosecution of this case, something he doesn’t want to do. And it would only serve to embarrass him when the appellate courts tell him he’s crazy and he isn’t allowed to engage in unprecedented behaviors just because extremist media pundits love him. Again, these aren’t corrupt DC courts and judges.
     
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    She asked him to instruct the jury to ignore the law. I'm glad he called her out. No, she won't be winning this.
     
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    This has no basis in fact whatsoever.

    What do you think happens to her?
     
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    Try learning what she was requiring for jury instruction.


    She's going to get smacked for this illiterate jury requirement. Just like she's been reprimanded by her superiors for being an idiot regarding this case before. If she keeps it up, she can be removed from the case.
     
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    Thanks. It wouldn't exist without government profligate spending. He should have warned against that. Companies that cater to government spending are just doing business. Business responds to demand. I have sold to government myself. To me it is just a government complex.
     
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    Just another example of the political corruption in the justice system.
     
  19. Lee Atwater

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    Reality dictates a recognition of the Jan. 6 insurrection, a lack of evidence for accusations of election fraud, and that Trump's penthouse suite is not twice its actual size. It also dictates recognition of Cannon having two of her rulings overturned due to their egregious failure to follow the law. She has now walked to the water's edge of a third.
     
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    Congressional warmongers get kickbacks from companies who make war machines. The CIA creates the need for wars in which the major MIC players get payouts from congressional warmongers who then get kickbacks from the money they approve. In other words wars are good for business. Fear mongering is how they get taxpayers to go along with the scam. If you had watched the video Eisenhauer did warn us about the MIC.
     
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    Seeing as Cannon has managed to leave the door open for the jury to consider evidence of Trump's innocence based on the PRA, a civil statute with no application to this case, it leaves Smith no choice but to force her to declare whether she thinks it does have application before the trial begins. A request he has already made and one which she denied. Then he can make a determination as to whether he should appeal to the 11th circuit to once again have her error reversed.

    Matters such as these have never come up when it comes to the overt incompetence of federal judges until Trump. Just one more way he has damaged the country.
     
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    Name them and frankly the warrants were unconstitutionally vague. It has to be specific. The warrants she tried to block were little more than we wanna go look for stuff.
     
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    Instead of just taking accountabillity for you making an inccorect statement, you are shifting the goalpost and pretending like you were talking about a specific case. Lets see what you actually said, quoted below:
    Your statement was proven to be incorrect. Do you want to revise? Or just keep shifting the goalpost?
     
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    Hokay, Judge Gary. LOL! I think that’s been adjudicated.
     
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    I've already named the incident. And there was nothing wrong with the warrants. If anything, they treated Trump with kid gloves
     
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