Japan Should Say, "Thank YOU" for The Bomb!

REPEAT​

The Japanese people were dying of starvation, malnutrition and epidemic diseases
such as Typhus and Tuberculosis.
No one has picked up on these deaths and how they outnumber "bomb" deaths.​

Maybe because we are too far removed from such horrors in the 21st Century.


BTW my Japanese
America chiropractor believes the first bomb was necessary and Japan should have
been given a few more days before the second.

The Japanese culture had no concept of surrender. Only win or die! ​

Moi


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Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

Japan only surrendered after the Soviet Union declared war upon them and were sweeping thru Manchuria. It was a likely combination of events that caused the Unconditional surrender, as the Allies refused conditional surrender earlier. Japan was treated exponentially better than Germany after the war under Macarthur. The guiding policy in Germany was the Morganthau Plan until the Marshall Plan took over 2 years later.

The Atomic bombs should have been used more exclusively on military targets, as Nagasaki was mostly a civilian area.

Just know that not a single Allied military member was ever punished for a war crime. They were the Greatest Generation. Better than you or me. And could do whatever they wanted without fear of consequence.

 

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/...an-stalin-did/
It didn’t take a military genius to see
that, while it might be possible to fight
a decisive battle against one great
power invading from one direction, it
would not be possible to fight off two
great powers attacking from two
different directions. The Soviet
invasion invalidated the military’s
decisive battle strategy, just as it
invalidated the diplomatic strategy. At
a single stroke, all of Japan’s options
evaporated. The Soviet invasion was
strategically decisive —it foreclosed
both of Japan’s options —while the
bombing of Hiroshima (which
foreclosed neither) was not.

The Soviet declaration of war also
changed the calculation of how much
time was left for maneuver. Japanese
intelligence was predicting that U.S.
forces might not invade for months.
Soviet forces, on the other hand, could
be in Japan proper in as little as 10
days. The Soviet invasion made a
decision on ending the war extremely
time sensitive.

And Japan’s leaders had reached this
conclusion some months earlier. In a
meeting of the Supreme Council in
June 1945, they said that Soviet entry
into the war “would determine the fate
of the Empire.” Army Deputy Chief of
Staff Kawabe said, in that same
meeting, “The absolute maintenance of
peace in our relations with the Soviet
Union is imperative for the
continuation of the war.”

 

Yes. Japan would have surrendered on their own terms. I hope that important distinction
hasn't totally escaped your notice. And since surrender itself, was a very shameful thing in Japan's warrior culture, they made it very clear they would fight
on to the bitter end if the surrender was not on their terms.

So you've brought nothing new to the discussion. This was all known before and let me say, as a last thing, that you've mistakenly or disingenuously, suggested the Japanese got what they wanted after all by retaining their emperor. But this isn't accurate because the Japanese didn't just want to retain the emperor but they also demanded their retention of the rigid feudal warrior caste imperial system that the emperor ruled over. This was as unacceptable as letting the Germans hold onto the Nazi party and it's highest ranking officers as a condition of their surrender. Period.

 

Your opinion is noted. Fact is, Japan offered to surrender, the US rejected it. The bombs were not necessary.

 

Now you're just making stuff up. The "feudal warrior caste" was marginalized by the Meji Restoration. Learn some history, buddy. There was no need to drop the bombs. Also, targeting civilians is a war crime. It's sad that there are so many ardent supporters of a war crime.

 

Hate to inform you but I have heard more than one Polish person from the WW II era say something such as that. It was more in terms of .........."at least the Germans got rid of most of our .......J........s".

 

Nagaski and Hiroshima were major military industrial cities. 67 Japanese cities were firebombed. Nagaski and Hiroshima were not. The plan all along was to show the world what nuclear bombs do.

 

You learn some first....buddy. The Meji restoration returned imperial rule to Japan. It did nothing to destroy or remove the militaristic warrior culture that permeated the nation. Stop playing the all knowing authority...it's an obvious sham.

It quickly brought the war to an end and saved many lives...Japanese as well as American, in the long run. But I guess that's not important to you and that's very sad.

"Hiroshima was chosen as the first target due to its military and industrial values. As a military target, Hiroshima was a major army base that housed the headquarters of the Japanese 5th Division and the 2nd Army Headquarters. It was also an important port in southern Japan and a communications center. " It seems the more you expound on the issue the more it's apparent you know very little about it.
You should have stopped long ago.

It's sad you think you know what you are talking about.

 

This is more fantasy than staged moon landings and Elvis is alive.

 

The US not only saved between .5 to 1 million Japanese lives, .5 million US lives and various amounts of allied lives.
If we did not drop the A-bombs we would have had to put up with Soviet-Russian "help" in the invasion of Japan. We save Japan from becoming split in half just like Germany or Korea with the North being run by Communists and the South being run by humans. Japan never would have had the economic power that it has today. There would have been the Toyotsky and the Hondasky cars but they would have been as good as the Lada or the Yugo. We all know how good cars made in Communist countries are.

The Soviet-Russians would have set up concentration camps and also sent Japanese to gulags. Horny Soviet-Russian troops would have been allowed to rape Japanese woman at will as they were allowed to rape German women.

So not only did we save .5 to 1 million Japanese lives we also save Japan from eventual elimination as a country and saved the Japanese from elimination as a people. just look at see how the Soviet-Russians committed genocide in virtually every country that they had control of.

So the Japanese should have gone on a Thank you tour.

 

This is arrant nonsense! 10 million lives saved by dropping The Bomb? US propaganda has no statute of limitation, obviously.

 

That's how it is when you end a war (and all the future killing it guarantees) but I guess you can't stretch your over burdened mind quite far enough to see that.

 

Okay
Please share with us how harmless to the Japanese population numbers the
starvation, malnutrition, deadly epidemics including Typhus and Tuberculosis
were every day a surrender was delayed.
Please do not forget to figure in the acceleration of those numbers over time.

Thank You.
I look forward to your numbers and accounting.

No Anti Bomb Historians ever address the dying Japanese population.
A bane to their position it is.
Similar to The Medieval Climate Optimum
to Global Warming Alarmist.


Moi

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Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

He can't tell you. He only knows America is at fault for everything under the sun.

 

On their terms. Don't leave that part out.

 

You need to know what a war crime is before you start throwing things like that. Ground zero was a the military insutural centers in both cities. They didn't specifically target civilians l

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Disprove it then.

 

He always does though. Odd, right?

 

I know right? That is a important thing to take note off.

 

Except you couldn't make an essentially dishonest argument if you acknowledge that Japan's offer to surrender was conditional. And that condition was to leave the emperor in power with no changes to the government around him...which is like the Germans saying we will only surrender if the Nazi party can stay and all the upper command of the party can stay in control of it.

It's insane...but that's the "little detail" the apologists fail to disclose. That's bull dung!

 

They also wanted to keep their holdings on the mainland.

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1. The Japanese military leaders in charge of Japan were not impressed with the first bombing of Hiroshima. Edwin P. Hoyt, a vigorous critic of America's entire strategic bombing campaign against Japan nevertheless, reveals this truth in his book Japan's War, The Great Pacific Conflict, NY Da Capo Press, 1986 pp 402-411. "Even when Dr. Yoshio Nishina, an atomic expert, flew down to Hiroshima and came back to report that an atomic bomb had caused the damage, the generals said they could live with it." (HOYT 401)

2. They were also not impressed by the second bombing of Nagasaki. "So what? said War Minister Anami, the nation would survive and must fight the battle of Japan on the beaches to so hurt the Americans that they would offer peace with honor." (HOYT p 402)

 

More "details" the revisionists and apologists would rather not disclose.

 

Wow, you will tie yourself in knots rather than admit the truth.

 

If lefties could apologize for the bomb, they would.

Obama is a supplicant.