Jeb Bush hardens position, says he opposes gay marriage

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm all for same sex marriage- marriage equality. But I'm still not going to give in to the political correctness police. I don't believe gay is normal, but I don't mind it. If two dudes want to get married, adopt kids, be recognized as a legal marriage, go for it! You got my support!

    I still don't believe it's normal behavior. Just because I don't think it's normal, doesn't mean I think it's "wrong".

    The PC police need to CHILL OUT.
     
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    statement from ignorance.

    If you think sexuality is a choice you have no business making any comments on here.
     
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    The Sciavo incident just proved what a buffoon he can be. Secretly, he is a right wing as they come.
     
  4. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Yeah, and it didn't hurt my feelings. Are they going to be able to take it when the normal kids call them names? By normal, I mean the kids who have a mom and dad. They are the majority and let's face it, kids can be mean and hateful. They can be picked on for having poor parents, fat parents, gay parents, and the list goes on. Can they deal with it?
     
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    Cool, because actually no one gives a **** what you think. No one can do anything about that. As long as laws treat us fairly, that's all we care about.
     
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    And if you think it's not a choice then neither do you.
     
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    No, you don't gave a **** what he thinks, even though he supports gay marriage, because he quoted the fact that being gay is a form of a chemical imbalance/mental disorder. So yeah, of course you don't care what he thinks. That trumps it all. Typical tolerant progressive homosexual.
     
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    OK, wait a second, so a kid who has two parents of the same sex is not normal? And yes, kids can be mean and hateful about all sorts of things. So why don't we teach them not to be? Oh, because if a teacher says anything about little Johnny's two moms, that's pushing an agenda, right?

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    WTF are you even talking about? So, if I don't care what someone thinks as long as they support equal treatment under the law, I'm some sort of ***hole? Are you ****ing kidding me? There's no pleasing you people. I was agreeing with him, so why did you **** all over me?

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    It is not a choice. Can you choose to be gay? Go do it. Prove to me it's a choice. Go let a guy screw you and vice versa, and you have to enjoy it too. Go ahead, prove me wrong.
     
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    I didn't mean to sound difficult. I agree with your comment, at the time I just didn't connect the dots and understand how being hypocritical tied in to property.
     
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    In many cases witnessed on these forums, so is being a RWer, and some take that chemical imbalance/mental disorder to the next level and are a fundie christian RWer.
    Those typical tolerant folks. You may have seen some of their posts?
     
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    It is one thing to want to make laws against based on personal belief.

    It is quite another to want to make a law, any law, on the basis of "God says so" like God dropped in to visit the Bush family for tea the other day.

    Connecting the dots and moving from gay marriage to abortion.

    It is yet another thing to want to make a law on the basis of " There is nowhere in the Bible where "God says" abortion is bad, and in fact some places where the Bible seems to condone it, but I think that God would not like it".

    This is not rational. I mean really, there are places in the Bible that refer to 1/3 of the earth being destroyed by fire in the end times. Does this mean that it is "Gods will" that Jeb launch the nukes to usher in the rapture ?

    The funny thing is that it is not Catholics who think like this. It is the rapture ready religious right - Evangelicals/Fundamentalists/Pentecostals
     
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    This is agreeing with him?? After reading it further, I see where I jumped to an assumption, I'm sorry.

    As for humping another man, no. Men have been getting prostate exams for years and not enjoying it or going gay over it. Being gay isn't the abomination that the Bible talks about anyways, it's the sexual intercourse. And the same goes for a brother/sister, father/daughter, mother/son, and human/animal... All of which can be forgiven, but none of which should be promoted or endorsed.
     
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    Nope, must have missed them.
     
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    Biology dictates that only men become husbands and only women become wives. religion merely reflects that fact.
     
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    What were you thinking? Dogs and cats?

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    I wanted to in 00, but gwb got the nomination. So I went 3rd party.
    I was going to go for him in 08, but he chose Sarah, so I went obama. Yes, I did. Not the 2nd time though.
     
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    Yes, that was agreeing with him. Thank you.

    Prove to me that being gay is a choice. Choose to be gay. Go do it or admit you're wrong. I'm damn sick of this "it's a choice" BS.
     
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    But alas, Scalia would have not the slightest problem. I sincerely believe that if same-sex marriage were explicitly guaranteed in so many words in the Constitution, Scalia would STILL find some reasoning for why it doesn't apply. And of course Thomas would agree with Scalia no matter what. Scalia isn't about to deny his God, his party, and his emotions simply because the Constitution must be distorted beyond recognition to do so. He does it consistently anyway.
     
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    Biology dictates that some men are attracted to men. This has nothing to do with some dude wanting to make laws on the basis of "God says so".
     
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    No problem.
    My issue in this is the hypocrisy laid out by most all involved. All are sinners. No one sin ranks higher than another. No one but God knows what's in a person's heart.

    Anyone yelling, ranting, humiliating another person for a sin is the greatest hypocrite one can be, IMO. Hypocrisy, is something God and Jesus both don't like. So I don't think hypocrites will be seen favorably in their eyes.
     
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    OK. Well one doesn't have to be educated to highly to see them.

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    Nothing authoritative or imposed involved in your statement. So dictation was the wrong choice of word.
     
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    Marriages limitation to men and women, and this statute, are dictated by biology. Religion is irrelevant.


    160.204. PRESUMPTION OF PATERNITY. (a) A man is
    presumed to be the father of a child if:
    (1) he is married to the mother of the child and the
    child is born during the marriage;
     
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    Tell to Jeb "Religion is irrelevant". He was the one that brought it up.

    Your claim that religion is irrelevant to the "gay marriage" debate is simply false. The whole reason this debate is going on is because of religious folks wanting to force their beliefs on others.
     
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    McCain was the better of two evils. If he was president right now, we'd lose horribly in 2016. As it stands, progressives are pushing liberals and democrats to the right. I even noticed ABC jumping on the bash Hillary over 8 answered questions this morning.
     

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