Jeb Bush hardens position, says he opposes gay marriage

If they are liberals and Dems, I doubt they are being pushed to the right to elect a GOP member.

 

Keep telling yourself that. If anything, the whack jobs the GOP is putting up for the nomination are pushing people to the left. You have seen them, right?

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Especially not the people who are running in the GOP right now.

 

Which would be all people, lol. No limitation was ever made to opposite sex couples though.

 

Hey maybe it's not a choice, maybe it's just something you can't help (but I honestly believe you could control it). But it's in a very slim margin. There are small categories of people in this world that get their rocks off on things that 95% of others don't. Could be having intercourse with the same sex. Some people are so religious that it's dangerous, like those who act like the mother from "Carrie" or the crazy chick from "The Mist." Some people get their rocks off by killing things (people and domestic pets). Some like child pron. Some like forcing sex on others. Some like to beat their wives.

I'm not comparing homosexuality to a criminal mind, I'm explaining that there are slim margins in a select number of people that are like what I listed above. That's why it's considered different. Luckily it's not a crime anymore.

 

No one likes Ted Cruz. Short of a major screw up it will be Walker or Paul. I wouldn't discount Jeb either because everyone was saying that Romney didn't have a chance last time around and he ended up being the candidate by default because everyone else imploded.

 

Obviously, you are not versed in statistical science.
Let's leave it at that!

 

Why should I be single all my life? To please other people? Control what? And everything else you listed there is harmful. There is no comparison.

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That's for sure.

 

Thats men AND women. Not men or women.

 

There isn't a difference.

 

Chill out, I know no one cares. I'm just saying that technically, it's not wrong to say that homosexual relations are abnormal.

 

It's good that your for equality but I don't think that is useful language. It's not about political correctness. It's about needlessly labeling people which can have a harmful effect, especially on children. And, most often it is used, not to denote a difference, to convey a stigma of inferiority as an excuse to discriminate.

There are many different definitions of normal and we could kick that around all day, but that would not solve anything. We need to put more emphasis on how people are more alike than different

 

Umm...I was agreeing with you in a way.

 

Your comment left me a little confused. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't offending anyone, as I'm an avid supporter of equal rights.

I was just being technical. Chatty mood today.

 

Did he say that?

Hurray! He is my US president!!!

 

They are liberals. You don't have to believe it, I've seen it on this very forum, come from their statements.

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They're the ones saying they'll be voting GOP in 2016 because of the ruin the progressives have brought to the left and the country. I'm not telling myself anything, I'm reading it with my own eyes.

 

So any kids who not have a mother and a father are not normal, not just kids who have two moms or dads?? OK. When you consider all of the kids who are being raised by single parents, or extended families that's a hell of a lot of "abnormal" kids. If you throw in all the one who are in "reconstituted families" with a step parent, these abnormal kids may even become the statistical norm. None of this actually means anything of course. It's just not useful to unnecessarily label people. It sets them apart and helps to open the door to the bullying that you express concern for.

Can they deal with? As adults it is our responsibility to prevent it when possible and to help through any unpleasant experiences of which childhood has many. As for the kids of gay folks, what would your solution be? There are many kids already in the care of gays, often from a former heterosexual relationship. Most states allow adoption by gays. Do we somehow put a stop to all of that, or do we provide as much support with legal rights .and protections, and social supports to bring them into the mainstream of society. Setting an example for others to follow -where they are not seen as "abnormal" what ever that means will go a long way towards preventing the bullying and rejection.

 

Yes, lets.

I'm versed in common sense. You can't sit there and tell me that if you poll a certain area, your numbers will represent America. Sorry. That's as bad as people wanting welfare recipients drug tested, and the democrats testing an area of 300 outside of one of the inner cities and telling us it's a waste of time and money because only 10% failed. You pick and choose your region for polling, you'll get the "over 50%" number you're looking for.

 

Care to post links to your claim so we can see it for ourselves?

 

You don't have to be single. Nobody, nobody, is asking you to do that. I'm telling you that your sexual preference falls into a small category of "different" or "unnormal."

 

You may not be asking that, but a lot of people do think we should remain celibate and single all our lives.

 

Thats tough to do with people that define their very existence by their difference from the norm.

 

Kids will never stop getting or being bullied. I'm telling you that kids with gay parents will probably get picked on once someone finds out their parents are gay. One of the main things I preach to my kids is not to ever bully anyone, just don't take any crap from someone that's bullying them. If I ever catch my kids bullying another kid, I'll make sure they can't sit down for an hour without feeling the sting of my belt across their butt.

It's not the kid's fault or choice in which environment they grow up in and I understand that, but how many kids understand it? I was pretty athletic growing up, and while the other team captain picked the good kids, I always picked the crappy kids that weren't athletic so that I could help them learn the sport, as long as it was baseball or football. A lot of the ones I played with were bullied and I hated bullies so making them better was my own little way of protecting them. That's how I want my kids to be too.

 

No. I wouldn't bother saying it if it hadn't been posted on this forum in this very section. You have the same features I do, you can search for it if you don't believe me.

 

Again. . .anyone versed in statistics would know how to create a poll that would meet the criteria of validity. All your concerns are INCLUDED in the science of statistical research.

Statistical studies include a minimum sample size, random selection of sample and even the way the question is asked.

Do you know that the sample was only 300 and taken from ONE small area? If you have a source that details those elements, please provide it, but Gallup is usually pretty good about following the statistical regulations.

 

Well I'm not one of them. I have zero problems with you and what you do behind closed doors. I do the exact same thing, just with the opposite sex.