Jeb Bush hardens position, says he opposes gay marriage

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  1. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    Well, you made the claim. It's up to you to back it up. Until then, It's just you yappin'. ;)

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    Great, thanks.
     
  2. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well who gets lucky enough to be in the "random" selection? Let me see if I can find that link, it was from a few years ago about welfare drug testing and was done in one small area in Florida. I'll edit this post if I can find it.

    Edit: I couldn't find the one about 300 from Florida, but I found this from TN.

    So if you answered no to all three questions, you didn't have to even take the test. Makes sense if you're trying to catch them, eh?

    And it's from a website the left takes as gospel.

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/08/07/3468610/tennessee-welfare-drug-test-positive/
     
  3. ProgressivePatriot

    ProgressivePatriot Well-Known Member

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    OK, points well taken but it does not negate what I said and it does not answer to question that I posed.
     
  4. Independent Thinker

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    With the way things are in the Middle East I don't think he could get elected right now. In 2010 when the country was tired of war his foreign policy would have been more acceptable. ISIS is going to be a big issue and they will use it to attack Hillary. The economy has recovered quite a bit since 2012 so barring some major financial crisis, expect the GOP to go after Obama/Hillary on foreign policy hard.
     
  5. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really need to inform yourself about basic statistics at least!

    This may give you a LITTLE idea of what criteria the Gallup polls used in their survey:

     
  6. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure you'll see it more and more if you look for it. :)
     
  7. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The accuracy of polls is decreasing. I didn't have to search to tell you this, but I decided to, and here's what I found. And the Gallup asked 20 people from each state. That's not exactly representative.

    http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/...how-accurate-and-useful-are-polls-these-days/
     
  8. dairyair

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    Presumed isn't a dictate. It's an assumption.
     
  9. dairyair

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    One can control their sexual tendencies, have you ever tried? For how long did you make it.
    It is also not healthy to not have sexual releases.
    I've talked to enough over my life and you can tell in some cases, the effiminate one(stereotype I know), that it isn't a choice.
    If it was a choice, there'd be a heck of alot more gay sex, certainly bisex, than there is now. Most heteros are absolutely turned off by same sex sex and would not be able to perform anything.
    Most have to have some kind of attraction to be aroused.
     
  10. dairyair

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    It's abnormal for the populace as a whole, entirely normal for those that are homosexual.
    Just like lefthandedness or any other trait not more than 50%.
     
  11. dairyair

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    So what. Many things and categories are different from the norm. It's what makes the world, the world.

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    It doesn't have to be that way. It will happen because parents scared them into thinking it is wrong/bad. If parents didn't make a big deal about it, neither would the kids.
     
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    That's all I was saying. If you look at my other posts, I was merely stating a technicality. As I also stated, I fully support SSM.
     
  13. CourtJester

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    That statement calls for more clarification. Are you saying that it really doesn't matter who is elected president, that the world is free of American control or America is on a path that can't be changed, or what.
     
  14. ProgressivePatriot

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    No one is saying that support is evenly distributed and that there are not geographical areas where support is scant, as well as certain demographics that are not on board. We are saying that there is, in general, overall and broad based support. You can't deny the reality of this, unless, you are, well, in denial:

    More Than 300 Republicans Call on Supreme Court to Recognize Gay Marriage Nationally

    And........

     
  15. Thirty6BelowZero

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    After my wife and I split up for good in 12/2008, I didn't sleep with another girl until 03/2013. From 2003 to 2007, we'd split up and got back together 11 times, 5 of those times while we were separated, I ended up breaking another girl's heart in an attempt to try to make things work with my wife. In the 51 months following our final separation, I didn't date or sleep with anyone. Not even so much as another kiss because I didn't want to break another heart or lead things into something I may not be ready for. Too many times I'd despised and hated my ex wife, and too many times our old memories would hit me and the burned out ember would grow to the size of a bonfire with something as simple as a look from her, months later. I never acted on again after 2008, but I finally got to the point that she didn't light that fire anymore and have now been in an amazing relationship with the gal in my avatar since March 3, 2013.

    I'm not quite sure I'm following the rest of what you posted though, about choices and gay sex.

    Edit: I didn't sleep with another girl until 05/13.
     
  16. Thirty6BelowZero

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    I disagree. I believe it's because it's not normal to most kids. That, along with the mob mentality that all kids fall into. And what kid is gonna go home and tell their parents who they picked on? Not many, so the parents don't have a chance to say anything until their kid is busted.
     
  17. Thirty6BelowZero

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    I'm saying that McCain was the lesser of two evils and right now, obama has miserably all but killed America, so as many indies and libertarians were desperate to get away from Bush and Republican presidency, the indies, libertarians, and even some on the left are ready for the democrat pres to be gone. Had McCain been in office, it'd be the people wanting a democrat in because of McCain's screw ups.
     
  18. ProgressivePatriot

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    You keep expressing concern about bullying but seem to be avoiding the question that I posed to you in #366:

    Why is that?
     
  19. dairyair

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    The rest of my post I was/am saying. Being gay or hetero is NOT a choice. I could in no way shape or form perform a gay sex act. And from what gays have told me, the can't with the opposite sex. Things that need to perform are not able to perform, if you get what I'm saying. No fire lit.

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    The kids pick up the bigotry from home and bring it to school. Some will pick it up from kids at school, but if no one in the world thought being gay was bad, there never would be any bullying for that reason.
     
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    I would be curious as to why you think Obama has all but killed America. Certainly no economist would agree with that statement. The economy is certainly not booming but it is growing and at this point our economy is arguably the best among all large countries.
     
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    Actually, MOST people who identify as homosexual, also engage in sexual relations with the opposite sex.

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    No one claimed otherwise.
     
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    The only hate groups here are the liberals.
     
  23. ProgressivePatriot

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    Do you really want to talk about who the haters are??..............

    Some people have strange ideas about hate
     
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    Nope. It absolutely is wrong. It's about as wrong as not supporting interracial marriages. Just because you don't realize it yet doesn't mean society hasn't figured it out. You're being left behind like all the old racist grandparents out there.

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    Why won't those dirty liberals tolerate our intolerance :'(
     
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    Fact is kids are cruel. It could be because the person is weak, wears glasses, has a weird name, has two dads or two moms, looks funny to others, or whatever. Kids are going to find something to bully other kids on period. For me it was because I wore glasses until I took a year and did weight lifting and then pummeled a kid that picked a fight with me that I was left alone after that.

    To say we shouldn't allow SSM or gays adopting because kids might be bullied is a poor excuse.
     

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