' Jewish Loyalty Oath ' threatens America

Huckabee was sent to Israel, in August 2009, to engineer Obama's collapse;

http://www.politicalforum.com/zioni...-war-brewing-over-israel.html?highlight=civil

The thread got moved to the ' Conspiracy ' subforum. Obama, unfortunately, chose not to continue the fight.

 

LOL You can't be serious?

I'll probably regret this but......who sent him?

 

Psssst. Don't tell anybody.................

From post #1.

 

Hmmm....... I read the entire article in the OP. Not one mention of Huckabee, nor of him being sent by anyone.........

I guess it's a secret.

 

It doesn't matter who did or did not send him. What matters is that his political position is heavily bigoted:

Huckabee in Israel: Jerusalem cannot be divided
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=16949

He'd make a fine member of the Likud party, but such Israel-loyalty doesn't help America any.

 

For a Jewish voter in America, what matters is that Obama is pro-America. If some Jewish voters are loyal to Israel and not to America, then they need to denounce their American citizenship and leave the country. An American president must serve American interests, not Israeli interests. America is not Israel. Are you suggesting here that many American Jews are not pro-America? I wonder what American nationalists have to say about this.

 

What I'm finding very interesting is the fact that the non-partisan ADL is trying to get the debate over support for Israel out of the debate. Seems that they would rather not be talked about in contrary terms lest people start to consider exactly what we are supporting and where our money is going.

I also find it very interesting that the right leaning/republican supporting, Jewish-based groups are more interested in their ability to drum up votes by attacking Obama on his Israel policy rather than supporting the interests of the Jewish lobby.

 

Hmmm... If we are going to play along with this conspiracy theory, who sent Huckabee on this "mission" might be relevant ..........

Maybe it is those who disagree with Huckabee's position that are bigoted?

 

LOL Israel is in America's interest. Strategically, historically, and culturally.

Sorry, but that is and will continue to be.

To pretend otherwise would bring into question the doubters credibility and grasp of the reality.

 

According to who? The Israel loyalist? I think that you'll find that many Americans feel that America doesn't need Israel to exist. Yet, then again, they are not Israel-loyalists. Why do you believe that America can't exist without Israel? America has only been pro-Israel since 1967. It is maybe rather Israel which can't exist without free US tax dollars, explaining why Israel-loyalists insist that America can't exist without Israel. Heck, if I could get free money for doing nothing from the US tax payer, then I'd be an Israel-loyalist too.

 

Obama cannot close a blind eye on the obvious and outrageous crimes of Zionism and the changing world opinion.

The 'Holocaust Industry' seems to lose its effectiveness as a weapon to silence the opposition to the crimes of Zionism.

Even if Israelis believe that Obama does not betray the intersts of the USA enough to please his Zionist sponsors, he still has to consider to some extent the interests of the country he is supposedly representing.

 

From the article you evidently can't see;

I've added some highlights - sort of helping you out.

 

That depends upon if Obama was elected to representing the United States of America or the United States of AIPAC. Some here seem to argue that AIPAC is more important to America, but I don't know what American nationalists think of that.

 

I don't doubt that there are a few extremists who hold that view..... but too few to change the historical alliance in any fashion whatsoever.

America can certainly exist without Israel and the reverse is also true.

As far as the American tax dollars going to Israel, wouldn't it be wonderful if all nations we donated to gave back as Israel has? Think of it. They are one of the worlds leading medical research countries making huge advances in cancer research and other diseases. They also have made huge contributions in agricultural sciences, engineering, and also desalination, turning the ocean into fresh usable water. Further, they have produced more Nobel winners per capita than any country in the world.

Contrast Israels contributions to the money we squandered in Egypt, Libya, West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon, Pakistan, and other countries? A tragic waste.

 

Thanks for the link and highlights. It is not the same link that was put up in the OP but that is ok.

So I am aware that Mike went back to Israel for a visit but spell out the conspiracy once again and the ramifications?

I'm still not sure I understand the plot.........

 

The link above;

http://www.haaretz.com/news/mike-huc...hotel-1.281951

The link from the open post of that thread;

http://www.haaretz.com/news/mike-huckabee-to-attend-gala-at-disputed-east-jerusalem-hotel-1.281951

Same link.

 

Actually it isn't. The OP link on the first page of this thread is:

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/focus-u-s-a/adl-bid-for-u-s-bipartisan-support-for-israel-faces-staunch-resistance-1.391990

 

So you failed to relate post #103 with post #101, which is unfortunate for you really as you've fallen off the train of discussion.

 

Personally, I find America should use its money to repay its debts, but I doubt that the result of foreign donations are as black and white as you like to think. While Israel has done some good things, it has done some bad things too, like every other nation. To say that one is good and the other is bad, is just not true. In any case, America should view other nations in terms of economic opportunities which promote science, education and culture. Unconditionally supporting Israel simply becasue someone said that such must be done, is not in America's best interests.

 

Assume the leading top of ANY country in the world know abit more than you about their own best interests and how they should run their country,

Assuming a minority of 8 million jews out of 300 million state population will actually control that state to the point of waging war for it is just insane,
The much more reasonable truth that the US or UK or any other western power intersts in the Middle East are similar to Israel intersts and thus creating some kind of an alliance - is inconceivable for you , why? why dont you fight the palestines rights on "clear" ground? why the need to demonize your rivals like some old 40's movie??

 

Most leaders of nations don't slave to Israeli interests. Maybe they have a good reason for not doing so, such as nationalism?

 

Nixon knew a lot about his country, about the Jews... and what was in his own interests.

His conversations were recorded.