You are underestimating the Turks and their knowledge of the Western world. They had lived side by side with the highly educated Greeks for centuries, as well as with the Franks and Italian colonists, so it's doubtful they were total idiots. And even if they were, there were quite a few Greeks among them.
HUH - ? OMG what are you talking abt ? Please go read the preceeding posts - from some clown, to who I've responded and who was stupidly trying to link Battle of Vienna - the Turks - + all muslims with New Yorks 9/11. byeeee.. tata.
He's not an idiot. As far as I know certain dates have significence for the Muslims... and the Turks were definitely Muslims... and they were definitely defeated outside the gates of Vienna...and it was difinitely that day that the tide turned for Islam. I also believe certain places have significence for Muslims, and since the Otttoman Empire began to break up with the revolution in the Peloponesus in Greece,they chose it as the place to start its restoration. I have no doubt that the sixty fires which broken out on the day the trade winds began to blow, and which had such a devastating affect on the Greek economy, was sabotage.
Ah ! I get it , you've gotta be right - Ottoman Turks being so close Peloponesus in Greece, abandoned their Islamic calender , opted for the Gregorian Sept 11 for the battle of Vienna and then a few centuries later - Al Queda followed suite and spot on Sept 11 chose to attack New York. Thats absolutely Brilliant - Congratulations . - - - Updated - - - Ah ! I get it , you've gotta be right - Ottoman Turks being so close Peloponesus in Greece, abandoned their Islamic calender , opted for the Gregorian Sept 11 for the battle of Vienna and then a few centuries later - Al Queda followed suite and spot on Sept 11 chose to attack New York. Thats absolutely Brilliant - Congratulations . - - - Updated - - - Ah ! I get it , you've gotta be right - Ottoman Turks being so close Peloponesus in Greece, abandoned their Islamic calender , opted for the Gregorian Sept 11 for the battle of Vienna and then a few centuries later - Al Queda followed suite and spot on Sept 11 chose to attack New York. Thats absolutely Brilliant - Congratulations .
and if they build it, they must tear down the old dome It would give any good american a reason to tear down every synagogue on the north am continent If the pigs like to claim, they have a right to the mount, then perhaps more americans need to point out what will happen, if they do. I hate israel and the whole forum knows it simply because the morons have made liars out of so many people, that perhaps the reasons people hate 'jews' is more founded than i ever even imagined!
That's your problem dude. I wish you a great and healthy life even if your heart is full of hate, evil and darkness. I want to suggest something , That all dead suicide muslim terrorists will be buried together with a pig's head. What do you say ?
notice the thread is using the word Near? tel megiddo is already occupied ie.... we all know who the "king of the hill" is in jerusalem and it aint israel Funniest reality next to having muslim pray chantings, daily, in the jewish holy land. People dont know these facts, but i crack up on them
The Temple cannot be built before the Messaih comes according to religion, we allow the Muslims to pray there, when they are nice its opened when they are bad its closed, Jerusalem is Israeli as should be, what we build and where is our affair as should be, next time ill go on a tour ill post some pictures for all to enjoy.
First of it is Israel's own Laws which prohibits Jews from building a synagogue on TempleMount , and its Israeli Law enforcers who are there to stop you from breaking your laws. You cannot build without planning permission. If you want to behave like a lawless bunch of barbarians , then dont complain and cry "victim" when you are condemned + hated. Gilos you attitude is no different to Bendoer's and other extremist Jews and is doing your cause a disservice Dont blame others for lumping you all together plugged into the same mindset. ...
Its not on top of the mount, its near the wall and ofc its according to Israeli construction laws, who do you think builds it?
Gilos go back to post #1 it said : i.e. "Israeli plans for the construction " Instead of irrelevent waffling can you update this and tell whether required building plans was actually approved ? - Reliable links from any of your English language newspapers will no doubt throw more light on this discussion ?
http://www.google.co.il/imgres?q=%D7%94%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%9C+%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%99&hl=iw&tbm=isch&tbnid=3M2lUVusJxcEJM:&imgrefurl=http://www.haatika.co.il/category/%25D7%2594%25D7%259B%25D7%2595%25D7%25AA%25D7%259C-%25D7%2594%25D7%259E%25D7%25A2%25D7%25A8%25D7%2591%25D7%2599&docid=eFKNZGa6DjuctM&imgurl=http://www.haatika.co.il/gallery/3A56873F-D975-BE0B-0992-8676FF4ABD7A.JPG&w=724&h=483&ei=bGYvUZ6yFsf0iQKE5YHYCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=181&vpy=239&dur=6791&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=175&ty=138&sig=102626716808654663408&page=2&tbnh=138&tbnw=196&start=20&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:31,s:0,i:177&biw=1396&bih=644 I find this thread really funny. This is the way to incite people on nothing. We've got here 190 responses, all based on false information at best. There is already a synagogue much closer to the Mosque. And if they buid another one, what is the problem ? Jews aleady worship their god there, Muslims worship their god there. Look at the following picture. You can see 10,000 Jews praying all of them closer to the mosque than the site you are talking about. http://www.google.co.il/imgres?q=%D7%94%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%9C+%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%99&hl=iw&tbm=isch&tbnid=3M2lUVusJxcEJM:&imgrefurl=http://www.haatika.co.il/category/%25D7%2594%25D7%259B%25D7%2595%25D7%25AA%25D7%259C-%25D7%2594%25D7%259E%25D7%25A2%25D7%25A8%25D7%2591%25D7%2599&docid=eFKNZGa6DjuctM&imgurl=http://www.haatika.co.il/gallery/3A56873F-D975-BE0B-0992-8676FF4ABD7A.JPG&w=724&h=483&ei=bGYvUZ6yFsf0iQKE5YHYCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=181&vpy=239&dur=6791&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=175&ty=138&sig=102626716808654663408&page=2&tbnh=138&tbnw=196&start=20&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:31,s:0,i:177&biw=1396&bih=644
Im talking about the principel, I dont mind so much if they do or dont im not gong to pray there in anyway, the thing is we can if we want to.
You're right , its close to Wailing Wall and further away from Al_Aqsa Mosque . I've not come any reports of protests from any of Jerusalem's muslim leaders , have you ? Or this just another storm in a teacup ? ...
Of course you can , as long as you''re sincerely performing your prayers and not some non-observent Jew merely demonstrating to provoke and annoying those of another Abrahamic belief system. Like that odious cabbage Arik Scheinerman did few years back. Got it?
Yes - a cup used for drinking tea - ; An english idiom meaning a small event that has been exaggerated out of proportion http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/storm+in+a+teacup.html ...
O K - i t was'nt clear. no problem , On the other hand you siggy by Golda Meir is a lie. A false name and false identity _ Real name Golda Mabovitch (Ukrainian) married Morris Meyerson - The Arabs were defending their homes against the invading European Zionists Jews , Peace will only come when Jews recognize their crimes perpetrated against Palestine's non-Jews . My personal experience both Jews + Arabs throughout that region, is that Arabs are far more forgiving than Jews I've found Arabs also the most hospitable -every Arab's house I've ever had the privileged of visiting , I was greeted with a warm - Ahlan-Wa-Sahlan. That siggy of yours is a shameless lie. You might be fooled by it + others might too , , but it doesnt fool me.. The evil cow - Golda Mabovitch -Meyerson died a slow death.
Interesting article below from a Muslim professor who claims the Koran teaches Israel does belong to the Jews. Scholar: Quran says Israel belongs to Jews Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2004/06/25003/#1tjH5T3T4EiZP5CV.99 brittish did not need arab support for ww2. Yes thats right, before ww2 started they declared a holy war on Germany. Of course there was the Jewish supported Bolsheviks who tried to tried to take Germany down the same path as Russia in the German 1918-1919 revolutions which wouldve been etched in Hilters mind.
Is it basically, a core pursuit of judaism? Why is a location such as 'the mount' so important to a 'messiah'?