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John Bolton Reveals why Putin didn't invade Russia during Trump.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    way to defend Putin, saying America is just as bad, and you're correct, we were also wrong to attack Iraq
     
    FreshAir, Mar 5, 2022
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    How am I defending Putin? You just admitted it was wrong to attack Iraq and that is what I said so how was that defending Putin?

    I'm no longer going to respond to ignorant Russian collusion talking points. I'll just assume the poster is uneducated and unable to think for themselves.
     
    Starcastle, Mar 5, 2022
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    More nonsense. If they were trying to help Hillary why do you think they gave her all that **** about Trump?
     
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    I'm going to start putting these people on ignore. Hillary paid Russia for dirt on Trump not the other way around.

    It is idiotic knee jerk talking points for uneducated dolts. Call anybody who does not agree with Biden or the democrats pro Putin.

    Of course Obama and Biden are the reason we have this mess and I sincerely believe Biden gave Putin the ok to invade. To distract from the economy and talk tough like they are defenders of democracy.
     
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  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you seem confused, they are not trying to help either side, they are trying to turn both sides of every issue against each other, they are throwing gas on the division in America, trying to make us destroy ourselves
     
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    There you go.
     
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    Marco Rubio ended it after he lost the primaries, then Hillary hired them

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/politics/steele-dossier-trump-expained.html

    "During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon — which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump’s rival for the party’s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida — told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination."
     
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  8. FreshAir

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    I took this as defending Russia, maybe I am wrong, do you condemn Russia for their attack on Ukraine?

    you said "The libos love to pretend outrage over Russia invading a sovereign nation"
     
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    No sh*t I condemn the Russian attack on Ukraine. Of course it started in 2014 but who cares right? The magic negro was president.
     
    Starcastle, Mar 5, 2022
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    would have gave you a like, but for the part about Obama
     
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    Out of bounds to criticize the magic negro?

    Why did he do nothing when Russia annexed Crimea? What about democracy? Donbas? That is part of Ukraine. How about when Putin tries to kill Ukrainian leaders like when he poisoned the Ukrainian president in 2004? Or when Putin tried to manipulate elections in Ukraine?

    Bush-Obama-Clinton-Biden are not pro Putin? They have been kissing his ass for 20 years.
     
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  12. FreshAir

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    not sure why you feel the need to call him that
     
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    Ok the magic white boy. Here is his mom.

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    Starcastle, Mar 5, 2022
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    Why would anybody respect the opinion of those who constantly push the Russia collusion lie?

    Putin had his pants down raping Ukraine and Georgia both for 12 years before Trump came along. Why didn't you care then?
     
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  15. FreshAir

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    yet Trump spent four years praising and defending Putin and still is.. .sad!
     
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    Trump did nothing for Putin and Putin did not invade Ukraine while he was president.

    As I have said I think Biden gave the ok for this invasion. So you dems can talk tough about democracy and borders while trying to destroy it here.
     
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  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    You miss the point.

    Most dems are not in accordance with Bolton's political views.

    That being said, his political bona fides are well established long before Trump, and by that measure, he can hold valid opinions on the likes of a political right wing outlier like Trump probably far better than your average democrat can. That his a hawk is irrevelant to that point.

    As for quitting, any rational person would quit Trump, the guy's a lunatic.

    Even Barr turned against him. All of his rational staff, Tillerson, McMaster, Kelley, all thought he was a moron.
     
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    It has nothing to do with ideology. If Hitler returned to life and said one negative thing about Trump he would be the darling of MSM. It's like a sickness.
     
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    Fake News. I grasped the point perfectly.
     
    Zorro, Mar 5, 2022
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    Trump gave all dictators a hand up in the world, name one he did not praise

    then name one of our allies he praised
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Apparently you didn't, as you have offered no counter argument.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'll file that in the unicorn thinking file.
     
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    You know damn well that your use of 'magic negro' is a racist epithet.
     
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    well I take offence to the term "Magic White Boy"!.....see, we can all be offended!
     
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    What really telling is the inability to control the urge.
     
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