John Bolton Reveals why Putin didn't invade Russia during Trump.

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  1. gringo

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    what is the difference between Ukrainians and Trumpers??

    Ukrainians will defend their capitol
     
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    Republicans have a number of governors and Senators who would do better than Trump.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whose calling Trump names? I call him a criminal, a despicable human being. These are accurate noun descriptors, not an epithet.

    Educate yourself on name calling. And mostly repubs use the phrase, 'orange man bad', I sure don't.

    FYI, Obama and Biden did more for me personally than Trump ever did, nor any other president, in history.

    O & B got me health care at a time in my life when I couldn't afford it, and later, Biden got me a SBA forgivable PPP loan which, during the pandemic, helped me prevent firing employees and saved my business.

    What did Trump do? He gave himself a tax cut for himself and his cronies to the tune of billions, and accelerated the deficit.

    and, there is my sig, a fact you can't deny:
     
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    You're counting when Biden was Veep? Really? Don't you know how our political system works?
     
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    May loose... May not loose... tell us what your crystal ball says.
     
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    Putin may be changing his opinion on Joe as a threat, but he obviously thought he could roll NATO and Biden. I think Putin thought could attack the West when they were divided and weakened by covid, but he found instead a bunch of people pissed off in general—nobody likes covid—and tired of fighting with each other. 145m Russians are now in the crosshairs of more than a billion people in NATO and their allies.
     
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    Trump in nearly every scenario will drag Republicans down from what they could achieve. Could Trump win? Maybe. Why take the chance in a guy beat by Sleepy Joe?
     
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    Holy Crap, Bolton really cut Putin's stooge's throat here! I feel for Crooked Donnie, he only hires the best people plus he is an expert in everything.
     
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    Thats not a sanction. Thats an act of war. You think because Trump didn't put Troops in Crimea that he was weal on Russia?
    Then you must think Biden is quite the P***y

    Then you support Trump because you care a lot about Crimea under him?
    Your deflection only proves your wrong and you know it.
    Putin invaded Crimea under Obama and was there when Trump took office. You can't sanction someone out of Crimea.
    Laughable

    So you don't know the difference between Russia invading Ukraine and Russia not invading Ukraine.
    Under Trump without Russia invading we bought 3 million barrels a day. Just like we have for decades
    Under Biden while Russia is invading Ukraine we buy 8 million barrels a day.
    Now give us all another word twist.
     
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    I'm not going to read what John Bolton says about why there was NO invasion of Ukraine under the Trump administration, unlike under the Obama administration, in which Joe Biden was the vice president, and now the Biden administration. John Bolton is a neocon and a disgruntled employee. This thread is a pathetic, groundless, weak sauce argument to try to distract from the simple fact that Russia attacked Ukraine under the Obama administration and the Biden administration, and it did nothing under the Trump administration. That is to say, in the last 10 years, Russia has only attacked Ukraine when a Democrat is president. You want to know why Russia did not invade Ukraine under Trump? It was because Trump was the hardest post-Cold War US president on Russia. With Biden, we have an utter incompetent at the helm on the brink of World War 3, and we have people like the OP to blame for it.
     
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    Maybe you should tell that to Biden’s press secretary. She’s the one who pointed it out.
     
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    He didn't get beat by Sleepy Joe. He got beat by the establishment, "a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information." In fact, the mendacity and cover-up from the media was so bad that 1 in 6 Biden voters said that they would not have voted for Biden, had they known about the Biden scandals. Additionally, considering there is a positive correlation between mail-in voting and voter fraud, and there was an astronomical implementation of mail-in voting pretextually from the Chinese flu, logically speaking, probably fraud also helped Biden get into the White House, too.
     
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    His cronies? 60% of billionaires vote democrat. So Zuckerberg and Dorsey are cronies? Bill Gates is a crony?

    The United states taxpayers gave you those things. Obama and Biden would step over you if you were unconscious and bleeding.

    How is magic negro name calling? How do you know it is not a compliment?
     
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    Yep and now big Pharma is in bed with the dems after they bashed them for 30 years.
     
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    FYI

    The paycheck protection program began under Trump in March 2020.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paycheck_Protection_Program

    Saying "Biden got me" is a strange way of stating something. It speaks volumes about your philosophy of government.

    Also despicable is an adjective not a noun. Barack Hussein Obama and Joe Biden are despicable human beings.
     
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    Big Pharma supported Biden, in 2020. Notice how the vaccine announcement came out after people had already voted; it's kind of like the Mueller report that came out revealing no collusion after people already voted in 2018. Like always, when these people accuse Republicans of unethical influence in an election, it's classic projection, as they are the ones that do that which they accuse the Republicans of doing. Democrats just rely on the low-information voter to not catch up, and they usually don't, or when they do, it's too late.
     
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    We'll see where Biden ends up. So far, we see the Europeans moving in right direction. Joe is out in front of their operation.
    Trump made nice with Putin while the Russian thug continued occupying the Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine.
    "Deflection?" :roflol:
    NATO has air forces five times the size, four times the ground forces, six times as many people... Of course, Putin can always start a nuclear war.
    Says the guy who has no answers of his own.
    Try reading what I wrote.
    Not so...

    "The U.S. imports 670,000 barrels of crude oil and petroleum products each day from Russia, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, which only accounts for 5% of its crude imports."

    https://fortune.com/2022/03/03/russia-oil-embargo-us-europe-consequences/
     
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    Don't know who said what, nor do I care. Veeps don't call the shots.
     
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    The same folks will be back, better organized with even more money.
    Your online survey is a joke. The loaded questions are ridiculous.
    I see. You're going to do the stolen election BS.

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    Just wow, talk about being all over the place. How do you get so disoriented?

    NOBODY is communicating with Dementia Joe. Everything the EU is doing they are doing on the own.
    Get out of your bubble.

    Really? You are that disconnected from reality?

    Trump killed over 200 Russians in Syria
    Trump ousted over 60 Russian Oligarchs
    Trump was the first president to give lethal aid to Ukraine to kill Russians
    Trump sanctioned the NS2 pipeline stopping Putin from having a gas monopoly in Europe
    Trump imposed more sanctions that any other president in history against Russia
    This is your idea of Trump making nice with Russia? This is your reality?

    So what is this?

    Dementia Joe lifts sanctions against Putin in June allowing Putin to gain a monopoly of all EU utilities
    Is this making nice to Putin?.
    What message do you think Putin got from that?

    Biden turns around and stops all lethal aid to Ukraine in May.
    Is this making nice to Putin?.
    What message do you think Putin got from that?

    Then idiot Biden makes a public announcement that no US troops will go to Ukraine. When he was never even asked that question.
    Is this making nice to Putin?.
    What message do you think Putin got from that?

    That bubble you live in must be plugged into CNN 24/7


    Which would have to do with you idea that Trump could sanction Russia out of Crimea again?
    Disorientation again
     
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    Pfizer started a big study of their vaccine in early September, the 3rd I believe that could have provided enough data to the FDA to get emergency approval by the end of October. I bet they waited to submit that data until after election day.

    Trump was trying to get drug prices down and that had to be stopped. Obama care was a boon to drug companies.
    https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pre...toric-steps-lower-us-prescription-drug-prices

    Now I'm in invested in drug stocks, biotech companies EXEL and INCY and own some health care funds. I'm not against companies making a profit from medicines. But they love the dems now.
     
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    I do think it is interesting that Trump sanctioned any company that was building Nordstream 2 and Biden stopped it but it is Trump that is pro Russia!

    Trump very strongly urged EU countries to be less dependent on Russian energy and he is pro Russia!

    Pre war, pre invasion I did not even have a problem with Nordstream 2. It is a vehicle for transport. Europe was already buying that energy and you had Nordstream 1 that ran through Ukraine. I do find it interesting that Biden gave Russia what they want and we still get this Trump was pro Russia idiocy.
     
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    Propaganda Alert!

    "A recent Gallup poll shows that 28% of Americans identify as Republicans, 27% identify as Democrats and 42% identify as independents. Our billionaire cohort skewed farther right: 43% Republicans, 24% Democrats and 33% independents. Yet they’re swaying blue. Nearly half, or 48%, say they’re casting a ballot for Biden, compared to 40% for Trump. That tracks with the larger population, which favors Biden to Trump 51-42, according to RealClearPolitics’ RCP Poll Average. It also tracks with Federal Election Commission data, which shows more billionaires opening their wallets to support Biden than Trump."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2020/10/20/even-americas-billionaires-are-tilting-toward-biden-in-the-2020-presidential-race/?sh=4218a9102bb7
     
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    This from the guy who had difficulty understanding an AP story.
    Gaslighting Alert!

    We can see Joe meeting with other leaders, announcements made.
    Gaslighting Alert!

    Russia took over the Crimea:

    "In February and March 2014, Russia invaded and subsequently annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine. This event took place in the aftermath of the Revolution of Dignity and is part of the wider Russo-Ukrainian War."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

    Trump was making nice with Putin while Russia continued occupying Crimea.
    You made untrue claims about how much oil we buy from Russia. You stand corrected.
     
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    Did you even read your own link?

    48% said they will vote for Biden.
    40% said they will vote for Trump

    In 2016
    45% voted for Clinton
    38% voted for Trump

    The mega rich prefer the dems.
     
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