Johnson Intended To Stop Ukraine Aid, Not Pass An Immigration Bill

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  1. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuart...not-pass-an-immigration-bill/?sh=245c37176e86

    I was reading some random articles and ran across this. It contains a good bit of factual info in it, but reading it made me consider this. What effects does Putin have on Trump? How may he have influenced legislative action in the US?
    Here could be an answer. Johnson has turned out to be a Trump surrogate, he admits he talks to him almost every day. And it has been widely reported that Trump is pulling the strings for some of the Republican representatives, including Johnson.
    What a perfect gift for Putin! Hold up aid for Ukraine AND create more border chaos!
    Seems more and more like a vote for a Republican is a vote for Putin.
    Read it and weep..............
     
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    Well, both of those are dumb moves if the article is correct. Stupid is as stupid does....
     
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    Putin waited until Trump was out of office to attack Ukraine. Putin himself said in the Tucker Carlson interview that he would rather Biden be re-elected than for Trump to hold office again. Stay on your meds.
     
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    Only tell half the story?

    You support adding Ukraine funds to a border policy that allows 1.8 million into the US per year?
    Tell us, what does one have to do with the other?
    And when Republicans don't go for it, you thought weaponizing Ukraine funds to get your illegals into
    the US to murder, rape, and bring fentanyl killing thousands every day was the answer?

    What a gift you have provided to your countrymen.
     
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    dharbert Well-Known Member

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    Democrats won't vote on a Ukraine funding bill that doesn't include allowing illegals into this country. That tells you all you need to know right there.
     
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    LOL! You think that Putin wouldn't lie to Tucker? Talk about being on meds.

    In any case, it would not be surprising if Trump would also advocate behind the scenes for shutting down government, in the hope to crash the economy, so he can blame it on Biden to get re-elected.

    You see, Trump doesn't really care for the American people, all he cares about is his own power.
     
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    When you start taking the word of a dictator that murders his political opponents while ignoring his actions then you should really reevaluate your stance on the topic.
     
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    Funny how you both conveniently ignore the first part of my statement, which can't be refuted.
     
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    Trump kept ukraine safe from Putin. Its too bad for the people of ukraine that Biden became president, theyve paid the price in lives.
     
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    Says the party that draws Putin like a gun in every thread.
     
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    And what would be the 24/7 news if Putin said he prefered Trump?

    Putin established why he prefered Biden. He's an ole political sole and he's predictable.

    Kind of like Democrats did with their Covid hysteria shutting down the country then blaming Trump for the employment numbers.
     
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    so we are supposed to believe MAGA is not pro-Putin?
     
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    Maybe Democrats should stop putting aid to Ukraine in a bill about illegal immigration.

    Yeah sure. Putin has tons of dirt on Trump.

    That's why he attacked Ukraine during the Obama and Biden presidencies.
     
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  14. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    Where did you get that from? Democrats did not say or do that. It was the Republicans who refused what they themselves had asked for.
    https://www.politico.com/live-updat...s-foreign-aid-border-circle-reversal-00140557
    I think you are confused.
     
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    and the right believe Putin.....
     
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    You could try and prove it, but you can't, so you will do what you always do.
    No facts
    No evidence
    Just deflections
     
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    Translated out of political-ese into English, 'aid' means weapons.

    So the democrats want to destroy Ukraine and the US and damage Russia.

    That's no big surprise.
     
  18. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    It was the Republicans who demanded the two combined. https://www.politico.com/live-updat...nate-supplemental-ukraine-border-aid-00140187
     
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    I wonder why Tucker put on that buttocks-smooching display with Putin anyway.
     
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    the right asked for a bipartisan bill, they got it
     
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    Maybe you should read your own links before providing them
    Republicans had initially demanded border policy changes in exchange for Ukraine aid, but abandoned that trade-off this week quickly after the border deal was announced, deeming it inadequate.
     
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    No.

    It was weak Republicans giving Democrats the foreign aid they wanted in exchange for them taking any action at all on illegal immigration.

    Democrats are the ones that wanted the aid in the illegal alien bill.

    From your source:

    Republicans had initially demanded border policy changes in exchange for Ukraine aid, but abandoned that trade-off this week quickly after the border deal was announced, deeming it inadequate.
     
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    How is that "destroying" the US?
     
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    Jinx.
     

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