Johnson Intended To Stop Ukraine Aid, Not Pass An Immigration Bill

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously you don't, republicans have said good things about it... Trumpism killed it as they want this issue to remain a issue
     
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    Bullshit! That bill had nothing for us. It allowed 1.8 million illegals to enter the country every year. THIS Republican wanted no parts of it. Republicans who did want it were RINOs like Mitt Romney and senile Mitch McConnell.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    republicans said, no, we can't support a emergency shutdown of the border at 5000, we need an open border for 2024, Trump needs it
     
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    Yes, I know you would like to have only one American political party. You have repeatedly made that quite clear.
     
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    I'm trying to figure out how one can be so confused with a concept that is literally spelled out in words.
    I think what is apparent is that some believe in an alternate reality, where what they want to be true is true.
    See if you can follow along:
    From the OP article: "In November 2023, Johnson stated the House would not vote on aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan unless it included H.R. 2"
    Then "Johnson likely could not believe his good fortune when Republican senators adopted the meme and declared that any foreign assistance bill needed significant provisions to address illegal immigration. Some would argue the Biden administration made a mistake by including border funds in its national security supplemental spending request since it appeared to give tacit approval to connect the two issues, pointed out Zolan Kanno-Youngs of the New York Times."
    Then "On February 13, 2024, the Senate passed on a 70-29 vote a bill to provide aid to Ukraine and Israel without immigration provisions. However, after Speaker Johnson declared a foreign assistance bill with the Senate-negotiated immigration measures would be dead in the House, he said the Senate-passed bill without immigration provisions also would be dead."
    Hence my supposition in the OP, that they were, imo, doing Trump's bidding and, by extension, helping Putin by tanking anything to do with helping Ukraine.
    I don't doubt that there are opposing opinions about that part, but you guys are screwing up the basic facts of the case. Honestly, have fun!
     
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    I support a bipartisan deal
     
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    So in all that, you just conveniently didn't include, Democrats came forth with allowing 1.8 million illegals per year.
    And magically, by Republicans refusing to allow 1.8 million illegals into the US, (which you conveniently forgot to include) they are doing Trumps bidding.
    We call those types of claims, Propaganda.
     
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    Nope, sorry. Wrong as per usual
     
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    They neither wanted what they got nor supported it, and Trump had nothing to do with it.
     
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    I bet you can't even find the bill to post it
     
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    No, you support a Democrat deal that gives you everything you think you want, giving nothing in return.
     
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    Funny how democrats require money to a foreign country to support their own.
     
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    so you support the bill?
     
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    If I say I want a book in exchange for a dollar it means you're trading one thing for the other.

    It's not "tying them together".
     
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    lol, sure
     
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    fell free to post it if you wish
     
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    like repubs, dems do not have a super majority, so we have to work together, in a bipartisan manner to get anything done
     
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    Like I said, you couldn't even find the bill to post it if you had too
    Thanks for verifying
    Much less know what it says
     
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    funny how Trumpism doesn't support their own, they would damage Americans for the Golden Calf
     
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    You're welcome to explain how Republicans in the house voted to pass it and how someone who isn't POTUS had anything to do with it while you're busy laughing.
     
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    it was a bipartisan deal
     
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    More gibberish pulled from the emotional center of the brain.
     
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    feel free to post it, oh, don't you have it?
     
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    If it was, then it would have passed a vote.

    Did it pass a vote in the Republican led house?
     
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    Its like talking to cabbage
     
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