Jon Bonet Ramsey case - any opinions?

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  1. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    It's been 20 yrs since the unsolved murder of that child and Dateline, 48 Hours and Dr. Phil have been reviewing the case. I saw previews on Dr. Phil where he was interviewing the brother, Burke, who was 9 when it happened.

    Watching the previews, I wondered why Burke had a bit of a smile while he talked about it, but pushed any negative tho'ts about him away, thinking m/b he was a little nervous and they only filmed choice parts of the interview when he had the smile.

    I watched the hour interview today and holy crap! that guy creeped me out. He had that little smile, kinda like a smirk, thru-out the whole interview. Never any expression of remorse, sadness over the murder of his little sister - nothing. He showed no interest in who the killer was.

    What really blew me away was him talking about that early in the a.m. when his parents were up to get ready for their vacation and he woke up or was already awake when his mother came running in his bedroom shouting "Oh, my God! Oh my God! My child is gone!" and he said he didn't get up or ask any questions. He stayed in bed. Then a cop came into his bedroom w/a flashlight, looked around and Burke still just laid there, didn't get up, asking questions.....nothing.

    He was 9 yrs old! 9 yr old kids are inquisitive, snoopy, they ask questions, particularly if something out of the ordinary is happening, but he admitted he didn't.....strange.

    From the beginning, I had always believed the Ramseys knew who killed her and Patsy wrote the so-called ransom note. For one thing, they called their friends/neighbors to come over b/f the cops even got there. NO ONE can be that stupid to invite the neighborhood in their home where a crime was committed b/f the cops could collect evidence.

    Well, there's something a little strange about brother, Burke.

    Any opinions?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Daddy did it to hide his...uh..."activities" and keep her from blabbing.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Parents are guilty of something,that is almost a certainty.
    Because their behavior was very strange,if grieving parents.
    They acted almost immediately as if they needed to lawyer-up.
    That is not how normal,totally innocent parents act.
    Plus the strange stuff about a note and forensics that didn't jive
    with what the Parents claimed.It's unsolved because the guilty party was
    probably the ones closest to Jon Benet ... meaning Mommy & Daddy.
    Who best to commit a crime and then wipe clean and destroy evidence.
    The least likely candidates ... the Parents.That is UNLESS they are the ones
    Guilty.Maybe the parents felt that Jon Benet was getting too big for her britches
    and she was acting like the spoiled brat from - The Bad Seed - { 1956 }.
    We have already seen how another Parent { Casey Anthony } a verifiable
    pathological Liar and sociopath did away with her precious child and then Lied
    thru her teeth throughout the Missing person investigation and into her trial.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I saw an article maybe a month ago in which the writer had spoken with the brother. He said that he remembered hearing his mom running around the house screaming looking for his sister and said that there was DNA found that didn't match anybody in the household which was why the parents were never charged. IIRC, a dead pedophile may have made a jailhouse confession he had done it, but I can't recall he particulars of that part of the article.
     
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    I really don't get the ransom note. I heard there was a guy that confessed to a third party who probably did it.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Either the father did it, or, at the least, both parents know who did it. I am sure of this.
     
  7. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, I'd always believe the parents knew who killed her - no doubt about that, considering their behavior. They refused to sit down and be interrogated by the police, lawyering up immediately. It took the cops around 13 months b/f the Ramseys finally agreed to being questioned.

    That is NOT the behavior of innocent people. If you're innocent, you have nothing to fear, will answer any question and don't have to worry about what 'details' to remember, etc......

    I wonder if the killer could be the brother? Kids have killed their siblings.
     
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    I thought it was her dad but he was so influential in the area that he could hush it up. I don't think Patsy did it but she covered it up for her husband by writing a fake note left by an intruder. In America, you can never convict rich folks and that's how the justice system works.
     
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    I saw the interview with the brother. He laughed and smiled all through it. It's creepy and suspicious.
    I have always believed the parents were involved in some way.
     
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    It's possible, but he was only 9 years old. Jon Benet would have been able to put up quite a fight I would think. I believe she was raped, wasn't she? Most 9 year olds don't commit rape and murder. But whatever the case, I'm certain the parents are guilty of covering it up, and I hold a lot of suspicion towards the father.
     
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    His smirk bothered me too.. I thought he was creepy.
     
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    Two things we know for sure. 1) the police screwed up the investigation by fixating on a suspect then manufacturing evidence and the media did the same and 2) everyone on this thread who thinks they know who the murder is are doing the same.
     
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    The Parents were Never charged because they almost ran to the nearest
    Attorney to immediately Lawyer-up.You were aware of that,I take it.
     
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    I was quite involved in message boards over the Caylee Anthony controversy.
    I was fairly certain as to who was most responsible.Again ... the one who LIED
    the most.meaning Mom { Casey }.I was also upset to have to listen to Geraldo,
    a Lawyer also,try and convince the public that no way,no how would a Jury
    ever find the Mom guilty.because historically it is almost impossible.
    Turned out Geraldo was spot-on.And I can't stand Geraldo.No so much one of
    his fellow TV journalist { the lovely Diane Dimond }. Geraldo ran around after
    the OJ verdict also boasting how it was The Right Verdict.
    Frickin' taco brain.
     
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    What else can we review? What a job.

    There must be nicer things to distract people with. We havent had a sex slave story for a while. Everyone loves those. Plane crash?

    I have to put up with this William Tyrell case here in Australia. The police have just put up a one million dollar reward for information on the case or something. He is such an ugly little kid and I hate seeing his photo all the time and the yuckiness of it all.

    How about an option on news that allows the user to block stories on certain topics kind of like how you can ignore forum users on forums. Does anyone have anything like that because it would be great. Same thinking as the ads for sites that will block the sites ads for a dollar - or the message here saying that if you donate some money to the site then you will not be nagged for 4 weeks. I would pay money not to have to see William Tyrells ugly, grubby looking little face in the spiderman suit picture ever again. *******n the Australian police and Australian government for bringing this nonsense up again. People that murder children are worse people than politicians you know. There are worse people in the world. And thank god Daniel Morcombes killer was finally convicted and there is really nothing left for the media to say about Daniel Morcombe. *******n Morcombes going on the news three times a day for years squeezing their five seconds of fame that their sons murder gave them for all it is worth. What the hell ever happened to asking for privacy?

    *******n Charles Lindbergh. If Charles Lindbergh could look after his children then we probably might not have to put up with this kind of nonsense.

    edit - Imagine if there was a serial killer that preyed on sleeping children. Everyone would be super interested in that. Has there ever been one of those?

    http://www.ranker.com/list/famous-s...Qrw.6&utm_referrer=https://www.google.com.au/
     
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    I agree. I believe the brother did it, and mom and dad covered up for him in order to not lose BOTH children.
     
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    That was my first impression.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Having a lawyer does not mean anything. The foreign DNA on her underwear, however, is reasonable doubt even under the best of circumstances for the prosecutor.
     
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    He did, didnt he? It was more like he was discussing a movie or tv show he watched. No personal feelings of grief were at all visible. 9 is plenty old enough to not make you cold or distant about it.

    I know this: something got buried besides the little pageant princess. Those things need to be done away with PERIOD. Allllll of them.
     
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    I know it's difficult to make your mind go there, but kids have killed younger siblings and JonBenet had been struck on the head by a big flashlight, which the parents said wasn't theirs. She had also been strangled and a bigger brother could do that. The sexual abuse part? Who knows?

    I have always believed that some people are born evil - a sociopath. And watching that guy made me think of that. That twitchy little smile on his face made me think it meant 'I know the truth and I'll never tell".

    Those damn kiddie beauty pageants should be out-lawed. I've always hated them. It does absolutely nothing for the little girls except create shallow, self-centered young women who thinks that her pretty face is the ticket to a life of luxury that she doesn't have to work for b/c she's 'beautiful'. Everyone should admire her b/c she's 'beautiful' and won beauty contests.....not to mention that it wipes away the child's innocence b/c she's taught to be 'sexy' by swinging her little hips and sing a love' song......barf!

    And they're a magnet for the pedophiles.........
     
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    Whut?! Ummm....don't know who this Tyrell kid is and sorry you find news about him upsetting, but here's the key to that problem.....change the channel.

    You're griping about Charles Lindberg? That happened around what? 70 yrs a go?! His son was kidnapped and murdered.......

    Anyway, be a problem solver....don't like what you're hearing? Change the channel or remove yourself from the conversation. Don't like a topic on a message board? Don't read it.

    Have a good day.........
     
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    SNAP!

    Wasnt the Charles Lindbergh thing the first time media and government exploited a tragedy for public distraction and social engineering? I was making a joke. That case helped ram home the importance of fingerprinting and FBI didnt it? I wouldnt be shocked if Hoover had that baby kidnapped and killed would you? And it distracted the living hell out of the gossip minded masses for a long time. It was great. Why do you think the media run these things so hard? It is for distraction. Better for you to be thinking and gossiping about some dead kid than stomping about over government or something hey. Why do you think the police/australian government put up a one million reward for William Tyrell info? It is because they dont have any dead missing kids to put in the news for the last few months so they thought that putting up a reward at this late date would give the story more life and value. It is actually disgusting but you masses love it dont you? They wouldnt push this stuff if it didnt work. And no you cannot escape William Tyrell - there is no changing the channel - and it was the same with the Morcombes. Every day the Morcombes would be on the news doing something to do with dead kids. They designed an app you know - that calls 000 if your kid presses it when someone is trying to murder him. They do a lot of stuff to do with murdered kids. They are kind of like Australias very own advocates for murdered children and their families. I hate them so much and I am happy they finally stopped going on the news allowing the government/police/media to exploit them. They were more exploited than plane crash victim families. They seemed to love it though so I guess its all good - I just dont want to see them anymore - or William Tyrell. I have never seen the Tyrell family whoring themselves out for five seconds of fame, and I have no idea what they even look like - so I dont blame them for all this William Tyrell nonsense - it is Australian media/government/police - ASIO. Even though you masses love this stuff - the entire thing is still utterly disgusting. And there is really no need for it.
     
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    Paragraphs would be nice.....

    The bottom line is when a child is murdered by unknown killer or kidnapped, it will be on the news and the media will follow up on it until it's solved, if it can be and IMO, this is the way it should be. There's been cases where someone watching the news had witnessed something, not realizing it was connected to the news item and notified the cops.........

    There's good and bad in everything and gotta take the bad w/the good.

    You have a good day.........
     
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    I watched another hr interview today on Dr. Phil w/Burke Ramsey and I swear there's something wrong w/this guy.....always has that little smile or smirk on his face, despite the ghoulish details of how his sister died.

    I noticed that despite his age of 29 and having been raised by wealthy parents, the beset in education, etc., he doesn't seem to have one iota of sophistication, being well-bred - that type of thing - in him. He always seemed to be on guard when he answered questions........

    Monday, another interview and that might be it.........

    Anyone watching these interviews and if so, do you see what I see?
     
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    Start with the obvious, Jon was a cash cow to her parents, a $$$$, I do not think she meant more than money to them, her medical history for cosmetic says that.

    That child was robbed of her childhood, her brother likely was jealous of the attention and money and also likely to have stayed in bed ignoring the sounds and loud distractions made in other rooms of the home.

    The entire family seemed abnormal as far as responses to events, usually, a parent begins a search thinking a child is playing "hide & seek" beggining a seach by yelling and being upset prematurely is a sure sign of complicity or fore knowledge that some heinous event has occurred.

    I think it is HORRIBLE that people are still cashing in on this poor childs death.

    I for one have never paid a farthing for any scandal rag about this poor child.
     

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