Judge Who Presided Over Flynn’s Case and Recused Himself — IS OBAMA APPOINTEE WHO SAT ON FISA COURT

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    No........I'm laughing my ass off that you accuse Russia of using your party's tactics. :roflol:
     
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    So, you simply never were interested in proof. Got it.

    Me and others actually read the report and it is strange to me that the alleged proof was classified. Funny innit how that works. Bet it would not work had Trump did it.

    Hacking the DNC in my view is not legal. But who exposed the DNC? Wikileaks did and they allege nothing they got was Russian based.

    Why did Face Book cooperate and accept revenue from the Russians?
     
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    Trump never hid his finances. The FEC designed a specific form for all candidates to fill in that disclosed his finances. Why is it that Democrats refused to read those forms? I posted links at one point to those disclosures.

    We in the lending business require borrowers agree to supply tax forms. If they are self employed, it is routine for them to turn in tax forms to us. But what are we looking for? By the way, the IRS supplies the form we must use to gain permission from the taxpayer. I get credit reports also and those by law are also guaranteed to remain private.

    We want to know that the self employed was not lying as to the stated amount of income. Self Employed have been known to claim they make a lot more than they really do make. And we do allow depreciation as a factor on income.

    The public has no clue how to evaluate federal tax returns. That and the tax return is guaranteed to be private and stiff laws are on the books for violations of the public trust not to disclose tax forms. This is why the FEC came up with forms that are legally fine to use.
     
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    No.
    What is the evidence that occurred?
    The FBI to this day, has never examined the server. All you have is these crowd strike guys who claim they think they did, and they are simply a vender for the DNC.
    Never happened.
    What is your evidence that this happened?
    You have zero proof of that.
    You can't even cite the crime you think Trump violated.
     
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    And, we do know that the Hillary campaign, working with a foreign spy, created a faked up dossier made to look like it was an intelligence document, when actually it was sourced to agents of the Kremlin and used to try to affect the election, damage the new Administration and may have been represented as trustworthy to the FISA court in order to get permission to spy on first the rival campaign, and then the president elect and finally the sworn President of the United States!

    So there is your Russian Collusion, Hillary/DNC/Obama Administration and possibly even the FBI, a fake intelligence dossier sourced to agents of the Kremlin.

    This is going to get even more fun!
     
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    We'll see. The Conference committee still hasn't produced a final product. But if they fail to do so, the House can simply pass the Senate bill, which does restore our right to purchase or not purchase, the health insurance that meets our needs.
     
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    That's a fact free fabrication, however, we do have the Fake Up Dossier, sourced to Kremlin agents, used by the DNC/FBI/Obama Administration/Hillary campaign not only in an attempt to influence the election, but it may have been used as a fake intelligence document to mislead the FISA court into granting permission to the Democrats to spy on a rival campaign, the President Elect and even the sworn President the United States! Pure Russian collusion, but not by Trump, but by the DNC/FBI/Obama Administration/Hillary campaign.
     
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    /

    I already noted taht the individual mandate is not the only tax in the ACA. Which undermines your claim.
     
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    No, it is not faked up at all.

    We know the specific dates of many of these conversations and meetings and who was involved. This all came from testimony, depositions, confessions, and documents. I doubt that we know all of them, by any means. The Russian/Trump campaign connection ran throughout much of the election and continued into the Trump presidency.

    The dossier has nothing to do with any of these facts either. You are the one making the fact free fabrication that the dossier was sourced to Kremlin agents. There is no evidence at all of that.
     
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    Bahahahaha!

    And that's not all that's fake!

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    ‘Whistleblower’ Account Claiming Flynn Sent Text About Ending Russia Sanctions Just Took A Massive Blow

    A whistleblower claiming to have been privy to text messages exchanged between ACU Strategic Partners official, Alex Copson, and then-incoming National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, appears to have been lying. Flynn had reportedly told Copson that sanctions against Russia would be “ripped up,” in an effort to boost relations between Washington and Moscow. According to AT&T phone records, the conversation did not take place as the whistleblower claims.

    That's gonna leave a mark!

    The news comes amid reports that another whistleblower told Rep Ron DeSantis (R-FL) that he witnessed a senior FBI executive suggest the Bureau had a personal motive behind targeting Flynn with the purpose of ruining his career.
     
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    No wonder Trump et.al. are throwing crap at Mueller... his investigation is amassing quite the evidentiary arsenal. He's had a couple of convictions and a couple of indictments, we know there is more to come, but I do agree an indictment ain't an indictment until its issued. And I think its safe to say that no charges will brought against jr,jarrod or donnie without a concrete solid case. It shall be interesting to see history unfold
     
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    small things and all....
     
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    drain the swamp? Exactly how stupid do you have to be to think that trump is doing anything but replacing a bunch of other peoples toadies with his own?

    such bumpersticker ironic hypocrisy that can only be sustained by gullibility, ignorance and/or stupidity.
     
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    Not sure what that implies, but the hypocrisy of all jack booted leftists sure do get their panties in a wad when their own tactics are used against them. That kind of small thing?
     
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    Nothing is more ignorant than..............


    skank.jpg
     
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    Too bad Mueller has no action against Trump nor were those convictions related to so called Russian aims to manage the Democrats election for them.

    Face this. And be quiet after reading.

    What you are saying to us is this.

    Obama knew of Russian hacking Why did he send his minions to investigate? He was admittedly well aware of it prior to the election. He admits it. Yet he allowed the DNC to suffer hacks. But rather than blame them for lousy security, supposedly the very intellectual Trump manage to toss the whole election to his side.

    Do you people realize how lousy you make Obama look to the world?
     
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    Absolutely correct. They make the Obama team look lousy. When the report came out in January, it had to have been commissioned a lot of months sooner. It was not done instantly. The spooks at the FBI and CIA do not rush to save Obama's name that soon.

    How many of these top secret reports have we seen under Trump? Trump appears to accept the Obama report but that report makes an arse out of Obama. For him to suspect then tell us he confirmed Russian meddling makes him look terrible. He should have by January of 2016 had the spooks working hard to prevent it. Not wait till it was done then try to blame it on Trump who was not president in January of 2016. Trump is right. The media and shadows of government do not want him to succeed.
     
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    There are two theories. 1)Obama hated both Clintons with a passion. He added her to his cabinet to simply get her to Shut her pie hole during his first term
    2) Obama still hated the Beast that he let the outsiders hack the DNC, no skin off his back anyway.

    Obama had no love for Trump either, and kept his minions spying on Trump "just in case" Trump tried to pin Clinton's heinous behavior and schemes on the Obama administration. Lord knows Obama's DOJ was corrupt to the core, and he wanted no ties back to him for it.
     
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    I keep hearing Mueller is a republican but no one can actually back up that claim.
     
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    How can you get secret materials?
     
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    His choices of hatchet men are all either Obama's henchmen or Deep Staters. Seems strange? Not really. Deep Staters are fascists in their own right, and make up the rules as they go along to suit them.
     
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    Frankly, this makes sense and does not shock me.
     
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