July, 2915 hottest on record

Sure think Skippy. The climate never changed before man came along or should I say Mann.

 

your comments are getting more and more ridiculous

 

The only response. Like for like.

 

your comment wasn't anything like mine

 

Only because you have such an inflated opinion of yourself.

 

That sounds very scientific. Also, excellent debating skills. First you issued an ignorant proclamation: "Climate changes". Then you backed it up by saying "get used to it". How could anybody possible counter that? I guess they could say "no it doesn't" but then you could come back and say "yes it does". Of course the issue isn't if "climate changes" but how much impact does pumping billions of tons of c02 into the atmosphere have on climate change. The real question on this thread is why do you want to pretend to be smarter than real scientists but at the same time keep trying to reduce the whole thing to childish insults and stupid comments?

 

it has nothing to do with me

i base my opinions on science, facts, evidence and logic

those are the important things

 

The real question is why do you want to be dumber than people that can read?

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Those are important things you have yet to use.

 

according to you, a person divorced from telling the truth

 

Even the GOP's favorite denier, Dr Judith Curry, points out that we have huge work to do in order to efect a rational response to the warming that she points out is necessary.

Distrust in science on this issue is a recipe for disaster for America - and even more so for the world.

 

I second his opinion

 

i easily demonstrated that you don't understand how science works

and you certainly haven't been telling the truth or supporting your assertions

really, what kind of person posts a quote that says gore said polarized caps? it's looney

 

Another who is a legend in their own mind

 

your fairy tales are on the level of ned and the first reader

 

Again, wash, rinse, repeat.

What fact have you provided? You still have no facts in evidence. no one does. The experiment has yet to be ran. So how can you prove something you've never seen? Please help me here.

 

It's what he said. you don't like he said it, but he did. And if you tube hadn't taken his 2008 Germany speech video down, I'd post it today to show you. But how convenient now that we've been discussing that, it is now down? Funny stuff. You work for the libs do you now and had them get it down I see. I also saw that you conveniently avoided posting that video. You posted two others, but not that one. hmmmmmmm, why not? I told you it was out there and you never stated you tube took it down. Interesting is all I can say here.

But............... He said it.

Edit: Oh and supposed that makes him looney.

 

the ones you keep ignoring

here' the link to the video you keep ignoring:

here's my post again, one of many that refutes your attempts at obfuscation:

 

The same NCDC that adopted the Karl et. al. 'pause buster' that magically disappeared the pause. Then you have this:

VANISHED GLOBAL WARMING may NOT RETURN – UK Met Office

But, I thought the science was settled?

 

what does any of that prove? The earth has warmed up since the last ice age, everyone knows that, what causes it to warm is the question. Do you have proof of why the earth warms other than the Sun? Let's see it. As I stated, and will continue to say, there is no one that has that evidence. No one.

As for the Gore stuff, you didn't provide the video from the 2008 Germany speech. IT IS WHERE THE QUOTE CAME FROM. Good luck now that you've had it taken down. It's ok you and I know you avoided it for that reason. BTW, It is where I stated it came from and you don't have that in your list. So?

 

it shows that you're dishonest and incompetent

oh please, lewis studied engineering and was in the navy

here's the truth from a highly qualified climate scientist:


"Between 1998 and 2012, climate scientists observed a slowdown in the rate at which the Earth's surface air temperature was rising. While the rise in global mean surface air temperature has continued, between 1998 and 2012 the increase was approximately one third of that from 1951 to 2012.

This trend — referred to as a "global warming hiatus" — has sparked a lot of debate and given rise to a reasonable question: Is global warming coming to a halt?

According to Norman Loeb, an atmospheric scientist at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, and the principal investigator of a space-borne sensor called the Clouds and Earth's Radiant Energy System, or CERES, the answer is almost certainly no.

"Heating is still going on," he said. "It's just not in terms of the surface air temperature."

Loeb explained the science behind that statement Tuesday, Aug. 5, during a talk at NASA Langley titled "The Recent Pause in Global Warming: A Temporary Blip or Something More Permanent?"

Though Loeb believes there are a handful of short-term factors that drive changes in surface air temperature, like the El Niño and La Niña phenomena that cause temperature fluctuations in the tropical eastern Pacific approximately every two years, he thinks there is a longer term factor that is a significant and overlooked contributor.

"The Pacific Decadal Oscillation affects surface temperature," Loeb said. "It's a pattern of temperature shifts, primarily over the Pacific, that occurs about every 20 or 30 years."

Historically, those shifts have coincided with changes in surface temperature.

"The Pacific Decadal Oscillation has a very distinctive pattern. During the positive phase, surface temperature rises more rapidly," he said. "During the negative phase, the rate of temperature increase slows down, hence a hiatus. It's very compelling when you see the actual observations."

Loeb showed measurements during his talk demonstrating steady increases in surface air temperature from 1920 to 1940 and again from 1976 to 2000, periods when the decadal oscillation was in a positive phase. From 1940 to 1975, and again beginning in 2001, temperatures leveled out in concert with negative oscillation phases.

Surface air temperatures have increased by approximately 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit since the early 20th century. On this timescale, the hiatuses look like short ledges along a graph of global average surface air temperature with an otherwise steep upward slope.

"You can't just look at short periods of time," Loeb said. "You have to look at the record over a long period of time to see the pattern. There will be natural fluctuations at shorter time scales, but we really shouldn't conclude that that's a change and global warming is going away."

Even as surface air temperatures are currently holding relatively steady, Loeb believes there's still another issue to take into consideration.

"Observations are showing us the planet is still taking up heat, but it is just showing up in a different place," he said.

That different place is the ocean.

In other words, as humans and nature continue to apply pressure to the Earth's climate through increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, temperatures are still rising. But as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation briefly tames temperatures at the planet's surface, the oceans are where the real heating is happening."

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/1141/




"Loeb has been a physical scientist for 14 years, and he received the prestigious 2009 William T. Pecora Award on behalf of the efforts by the entire CERES science team for outstanding contributions to the understanding of the Earth by means of remote sensing. This year, Loeb also received this year’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement medal, which is awarded for an unusually significant scientific contribution toward achieving NASA’s mission. While his contributions have been significant, Loeb feels like he still has more work to do. He hopes to one day see a multi-decadal climate data record of the Earth’s radiation budget to help improve our understanding of climate."

https://mynasadata.larc.nasa.gov/oyw/meet-the-team-norman-loeb/

 

What has that got anything to do with what the MET office reported? Oh, I forget, one has to know how to read and be curious.

 

it shows that they're wrong about global warming vanishing

 

Wait, you mean they have no scientists at the UK MET office? LOL

 

Badda bing!!! you've proven my point. You ain't got jack. Just as I declared it.

 

I have to laugh, he mentions the Argo floats, the very temperature stations that the Karl et. al. paper adjusted to match the more alarmist desirable engine intake temperatures.