Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should we not say we ? Who is we Jack ? and why are you attempting to get personal and boss me around rather than addressing the topic ? Your not the boss of me ! :)

    Now .. why are you so surprised that Iran is Training Russians on how to use Iranian made drones of which they have been sending Russia loads and loads .. decimating Ukrainian forces .. the Clone Wars begun.

    What was the difficulty you wanted to discuss ..
     
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    I have given you many links in the past .. feigning a bad memory is not cool. It is not just someone's opinion ? what is this silly silly - Do you not know what a reference is Zoomer .. and you didn't watch in any case.. just the Ad Hom fallacy is you have offered ..

    Lets see your evidence of this big offensive going on against Crimea .. such that it is "Dangling by a Thread" .. :) funny stuff mate .. Dreams of days gone buy .. the counter offensive is long gone Zoomie ..
     
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    None of that contradicts anything from my post. Russian tyrants have succeeded in conquering and occupying many nations to the East. Unless you are Putin or perhaps part of the political class he tolerates your use of "we have" is misplaced. The Russian people do not have any of that still thinly populated and underdeveloped territory that could have enriched them.

    In short, your assertion that Russia never loses wars was simply mistaken. Review the History. The Russian people have always gotten a raw deal from their leaders.

    “At the beginning of the XIX century, the campaign of Russian Emperor Paul I in India ended in complete failure, and in a few decades, Russia was defeated in the Crimean War (1853-1856). At that time, European powers were firmly united against Russia. Thanks to the unity of Europeans and the plight of Russia after the war, it was defeated in the Berlin Congress of 1878. After these defeats, the Russian leadership was forced to turn away from Europe and begin expansion into Asia.
    By the end of the 19th century, Russia already controlled the Pacific coast, so it turned its attention to the Korean Peninsula and Manchuria. Russia's subsequent defeat in the Russo-Japanese War was one of the causes of the end of the Russian Empire.”
    EUROINTEGRATION, Russia used to lose wars, says history. Don't buy the opposite myth, and don't write off Ukraine!
    WEDNESDAY, 2 MARCH 2022 — YAROSLAV KURFYURST, MFA OF THE CZECH REPUBLIC
    https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/articles/2022/03/2/7135060/

    Russian tyrants have been very successful when confronted by internal revolts against serfdom and other aspects of Tsarist and Soviet oppression too repulsive for the ordinary people and even some members of the political class to accept passively. Liberation movements like the Decembrist Revolt and Pugachev's military rebellion were eventually and tragically crushed by the Russian military.
     
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    Well the USSR did manage to finally take Poland and Romania during Stalin's alliance with Hitler and Nazi Germany.
    Maybe they count that as a "win".
     
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    But for the lack of more effective long range weapons Crimea would have been cut off early in the war.
    IOW, you are right, Crimea is "Of course ... especially vulnerable".
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well Yeah and the glaring fact that Ukraine was not allowed to attack the Russian homeland with the Western wonder weapons .. would they have been given .. and the reason for not giving. How can you win an artillery Trench war .. when you are not allowed to attack behind enemy lines ... It is a preposterous offering right off the hop .. a deal you can't win .. from day one.

    Yet here we are .. 2 years on... Team US-NATO on the Ropes -- unable to supply their brave JV-Team what they .. low on ammo .. Artillery shells in particular -- in an artillery war .. average age on the front line is pushing 50 .. ridiculously low on human capital .. 400 KIA .. and another 800,000 wounded .. now with this latest Russian offensive .. Ukraine on the Retreat .. casualty count has gone way up again .. Ukraine losing more than 1000 a day on bad days..

    Any hopes of a Ukraine counter -offensive died long ago .. and with it the capture of Crimea .. the best we can hope for at this point is to save Odesa ..
     
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    Aha. We have been defeated all the time that we exist, but our territory is the largest in the world. Yes, there is no any contradictions.
    Let we compare our tyrants and yours?
    Is it OK if I live in Siberia? My city has 1 million population. Of course, there are no contradictions your posts. Absolutely.
    What??? Oh, My God... :)))
    Aha. What about our territory? It is growing. May be you have a bit carefully study information about Russia? The war between Russia and India impressed me a lot :)
    :))) The Decemberists were Freemasons. Excuse me, do you have any education?
     
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    The Russians will occupy Odessa in due course unless the American electorate stops allowing itself to be manipulated into serving Putin’s interests.
     
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    Yeah...and half turned out to be BS links ...so my memory serves me good.

    Big offensive in Crimea?....never said that...yet.

    But the orcs are vacating their repair ships the phuck outta there according to Atesh....too hot in the kitchen?....do I hear drone strikes at Taman and Novorossisk?....hahaha.
     
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    There isn't one Orc ship in the Western Black Sea that's close to Odessa....2 more A50s are for scrap gifter.....your air biscuits are hilarious here dude.
     
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    Where's the "back clip pud pull" gifter?....it was sounding to weird?....hahaha

    Like I said....orcs are vacating their repair ships outta Crimea....2 more A50s turned to scrap metal yesterday....Swedens in NATO, And Konigsberg is feeling the heat...a$$ cheeks are puckering in the Kremlin these days.
     
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    Ukraine has accused Russia of illegally using poison gas grenades at least 50 times in the last few days.

     
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    Obviously your memory did not serve you good as you first claimed you were given no links. Funny fellow Zoomie .. now you remember the links .. but they were BS and no good .. citing no reason .. just floating air biscuits .. mumbling some Azov Z de humanization trope ... Russian civilians are "Orcs" missile strikes on civilian "Orc" populations to be celebrated .. extermination of pesky vermin .....then chuckling "hahaha"

    That's funny stuff indeed Zoomie .. :)
     
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    What kind of Poison Gas... Sarin ? Chlorine ? left over from WW1 no doubt ..
     
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    Tough to make sense out of this Zoomie --- Crimea repair ships vacating Crimea .. don't have squat to do with the mass retreat going on along the front lines low on ammo .. didn't build defensive lines .. average age on the front line 45 .. untrained .. not wanting to be there in the first place -- out gunned 10 to 1

    Casualties have gone way up again Zoomer .. the retreating Ukrainian troops getting mowed down by the drone clone war meat grinder more than 1000 per day - horrible losses ... with little to no help on the way.

    Heard its gonna be at least end of April before US-Aid "might" arrive .. assuming spending bill passes the house .. The Czechs are running around trying to raise cash to buy artillery shells on the open arms market .. at ridiculously inflated prices.

    This is ridiculous Zoomer .. do you not see what a complete disaster has unfolded .. The west is effectively out of artillery shells to supply Ukraine .. sans the minimal domestic production .. which is a joke , maybe 1000 shells per day if lucky .. there is your "back clip pud pull" or what ever that means mate :)
     
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    Right .. and how does that work .. exactly ? The American electorate is being manipulated into serving Putin's interests how ? Do you think Voting for Trump serves Putin's interests .. and so the US public is being manipulated by Russia to vote for the Orange Man ?

    I am thinking the American electorate doesn't have squat to say about US foreign policy .. That is directed by the Donor Class .. regardless of who gets elected .. cause that is how it works in a Pay to Play system !
     
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    The Russians have some new toys.
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 10, 2024
    Mar 10, 2024 - ISW Press
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    A Ukrainian military official confirmed that Russian forces are conducting strikes in Ukraine with improved glide bombs. Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Captain Dmytro Lykhovyi reported on March 10 that Russian forces struck Myrnohrad, Donetsk Oblast, with three universal interspecific glide munition (UMPB) D-30SN guided glide bombs that Ukrainian forces initially originally assessed were S-300 missiles. Lykhovyi stated that improved UMPB D-30SN guided glide bombs essentially convert Soviet-era FAB unguided gravity bombs to guided glide bombs. Russian forces had previously used unguided glide bombs as recently as January 2024. ISW recently observed Russian milbloggers claim that Russian forces began conducting strikes with FAB UMPB guided glide bombs, as opposed to using unguided glide bombs with unified planning and correction modules (UMPC), in unspecified areas in Ukraine.
     
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    "We have been defeated all the time..." You

    Not true. Russia does not lose "all the time" -- just most of the time.

    The rest of your post is unresponsive.
     
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    Too Little Too Late has often been the American way war, but Ukraine continues to find ways to reach well into Russia to blunt its aggression.
    Europe will eventually fill the logistical gap even if they have to do it the hard way -- for Europe and Russia.

    After Russia lost 2 prized A-50 planes, Ukraine struck a factory that's replacing them, reports say
    ALIA SHOAIB, MAR 11, 2024, 17:39 IST
    After Russia lost 2 prized A-50 planes, Ukraine struck ...
    Business Insider India
    https://www.businessinsider.in › news › articleshow

    5 hours ago — The plant is reportedly refurbishing A-50 spy planes, which play a crucial role in Russia's operations over Ukraine.. Ukraine conducted drone ...
    https://www.businessinsider.in/inte...ng-them-reports-say/articleshow/108396528.cms
     
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    what does this "winning" thing look like to you mate? Based on what's happening to the Russian economy it looks like it's becoming a vassal state of China...the Rouble is basically being transplanted by the Yuan...zip inward investment...zip access to venture capital...the lad putin is just taxing and spending on the military....if this is winning to you then they sure...lap it up pal....

    Ukraine will have access to EU...they're putting together a USD100Bn investment fund for Ukraine....and the likes of Blackrock et al are lining up to sign deals for Ukrainian re-building...

    Russia on the other hand gets what?? Pretty much f**k all because nobody can deal with you...just enjoy the tofu dreg from China because that's the future for a once great Russia

    anyway.....good luck with that little fantasy when you define what winning actually is....
     
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    The Decembrists were heroic, if more romantic than practical. Russia today would be a different and better country had they somehow succeeded.

    The Decembrists were primarily members of the upper classes who had military backgrounds; some had participated in the Russian occupation of France after the Napoleonic Wars or served elsewhere in western Europe; a few had been Freemasons, and some were members of the secret patriotic (and, later, revolutionary) societies in Russia—the Union of Salvation (1816), the Union of Welfare (1818), the Northern Society (1821), and the Southern Society (1821).

    Decembrist | Russian Revolution, Uprising, 1825 - Britannica
     
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    If you look at some pics in various news outlets where Pootler and Xi are "hailing" great economic,military,political ties.....usually Xi Xinping has the biggest smile while Pootler looks like he's desperately trying to stifle a fart.....:laughing:
     
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    what is even funnier is that the Yuan is transplating the rouble..in Russia...as the preferred currency...Russia has such a glut of Indian Rupees and Chinese Yuan through the sale of oil which it cannot exchange for hard currency but the tax on the oil price difference between Ural rates and market rate/CIS Exchange fixed rates has to be paid in Roubles/USD...it is basically having to enter into trade deals with the Yuan as the contract currency which makes China very happy of course but not the oil companies who are basically cutting productions because it's not profitable for them to produce...but hey...according to the f**ked in the heed morons...Russia's winning....YAY!!!!
     
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    If you bothered to read the link you deleted from your quote then you would know.
     
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    There you go, grifty, you can hear all about it there. Amazing how you deleted the source refusing to acknowledge it.
     

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