Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

Yup .. and just as USA thought nukes in Cuba was an existential threat.. Russia feels the same way about Nato putting nuclear capable missiles on its borders which Nato did in Poland and Czech .. poking the Bear ..

The claim that the missiles in cuba was not viewed as an existential threat is preposterous nonsense on steroids .much of the world outside of Russia and USA viewed the crisis as such .. never mind the two parties involved. I am sensing that you do not have the faintest idea what an existential threat is.

 

Missiles in the Czech Republic and Poland are no closer to Russia than Russian missiles are to the Czech Republic and Poland. Russians have only themselves to blame for the fear they engender in their neighbors.

 

Here's the Pootster's vision.
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, May 7, 2024
May 7, 2024 - ISW Press



Russian President Vladimir Putin began his fifth term as Russian President on May 7 and stressed Russia's need for unchallenged autocratic rule while indirectly calling for victory in Ukraine. Putin thanked Russian citizens, the residents of Russia’s “historical lands,” participants in the “special military operation,” and those who have “defended the right to be together with the motherland,” and called on Russia to unite for victory. Putin did not specify what this Russian victory entails and only vaguely referenced Russia's “serious challenges.” Putin has long justified his effort to destroy Ukrainian statehood by claiming that Russia is fighting for "historic lands" in Ukraine and coming to the aid of "compatriots abroad" who desire to reunite with Russia.

 

Coming to the aid of "compatriots abroad"?

Does that mean Alaska, Brighton Beach NY, Sunny Isles FL, that seek to "unite" with Mafiosi?

Pootler didn't sound to confident on his "vague" references!

 

I agree, internationally it was viewed as a crisis and indeed it did escalate but I'm thinking this was as a result of decision making not as a result of any "existential threat" to the US...the missiles in Cuba were not operational.....they were not capable of being fuelled or launched....there was no open armed conflict going on in the world at the time so where was the existential threat? The threat was merely brinkmanship....decision making by two men which took them to places they didn't need to go. I think maybe the issue is your over enthusiastic and flawed use of the term "existential threat" in terms of the doctrine of nuclear weapons release. Are you maybe trying to equate the Russian update in their doctrine to fit with the term and then backdate it to assume some sort of primacy? Maybe that's where the problem lies as the new doctrine seems to be open to vast interpretation based on Putin's particular mood of the day which is probably not a good thing when Putin is the only person having overall control of the definition.

So yes I think I have a reasonable grasp on what an existential threat is...my feeling though based on your posting is that you're maybe grappling with the topic?

Just on the odd phrasing of "nuclear capable missiles" is that supposed to have some meaning? I have samsonite luggage which is "nuclear capable".....if I put a nuclear weapon in it....it's nuclear capable...but until that happens it's just a suitcase....

 

Russia is running out of young men.

DECCAN HERALD, Four arrested for duping young Indian men into fighting for Russia in Ukraine, Reuters, May 8, 2024.
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Four arrested for duping young Indian men into fighting for Russia in UkraineNew Delhi: The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) said four people linked to a network of human traffickers have been arrested on suspicion of luring....
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https://www.deccanherald.com/india/fourarrestedfordupingyoungindianmenintofightingforrussiainukraine-3013953

 

Monroe Doctrine: anti-colonialism, anti-imperialism, anti-fascism

 

Sudetenland, sections of northern and western Bohemia and northern Moravia, in the vicinity of the Sudeten mountain ranges. The Sudetenland, which had a predominately German population, was incorporated into Czechoslovakia when that new nation’s frontiers were drawn in 1918–19. The Sudeten and other Germans in Czechoslovakia numbered about 3,000,000 in the interwar period. Because of its German majority, the Sudetenland later became a major source of contention between Germany and Czechoslovakia, and in 1938 participants at the Munich Conference, yielding to Adolf Hitler, transferred it to Germany.

The annexation of the Sudetenland by Germany was, to a large degree, prepared by the Sudeten Germans, who—after accepting with great reluctance the Treaty of Saint-Germain, which had placed them under Czechoslovak rule in 1919—responded with increasing approval to the German nationalist, anti-Czech, anti-Semitic propaganda disseminated by the Sudeten German (or Nazi) Party during the mid-1930s. That party, led by Konrad Henlein, exploited the dissatisfaction of unemployed workers in the Sudetenland, where the heavily industrialized economy had come almost to a standstill as a result of the Great Depression. The party also capitalized on discontent over the ethnic discrimination practiced in the region by Czech officials. In the parliamentary elections of May 1935, the party received almost two-thirds of the Sudeten German vote and sent the second largest bloc of representatives to the Czechoslovak Parliament. Afterward, the Sudeten Nazis increased their activities, which were basically aimed at uniting the Sudetenland with Germany and included hostile outbreaks and provocative incidents. They not only succeeded in embarrassing the Czechoslovak government but also convinced Great Britain and France that the situation in the Sudetenland was highly inflammatory and that the Czechoslovak leaders must be persuaded to take extreme action, even ceding the region to Germany, to avoid a war.

... https://www.britannica.com/place/Sudetenland​

Just another angry little man sending thousands of young men to their deaths over ethnocentric nationalistic and imperialistic delusions.

 

...there's an upside to this narrative in that the Chinese Nationalists are now cottoning onto the snub that Putin's given them...claiming the imperialistic crown over his old lands as being his to rule as he likes, whilst not acknowledging that most of Eastern Russia is viewed as traditionally Chinese.....even with the long term leasing of 5M hectares to China, this nationalist movement is gaining momentum and even gaining momentum in the CCP which Xi will need to manage. Coupled with the fact that Putin is actively de-populating the region of fighting age men to feed into Ukraine....well, he's leaving the region wide open and there's a crap ton of oil and gas and all sorts of natural goodies that China doesn't have and needs badly, but is just sitting there undefended...I mean it's not going to happen soon but....

 

No Jack .. Poland and Czech do not have nuclear missiles .. just as Cuba did not have nuclear missiles. US was not worried about Cuba's missiles .. but Russian Nuclear missiles in Cuba.

Baby steps Jack .. Nuclear missiles in closer proximity are viewed as an existential threat .. be it USA .. or Russia .. Namibia .. K Jack .. KK ?? Got it now !

 

Then you have just negated your own point. Saves me the work.

 

Bradley destroys BMP with ease as Ukraine's 47th Brigade battle Russia near Avdiivka

 

No Jack .. you not able to distinguish up from down .. right from wrong .. negative from positive , and still have not figured out that a naked claim is not an argument. Now instead of not putting in the work .. how about you show some support for claim and try to learn what an argument is.

 

Bradley's have assraped hundreds of RuZZfascists vehicles contrary to the Potemkin tee-rolls claiming otherwise.

 

Yeah, they seem to be quite the workhorse for Ukraine.

 

Holy backwards doublespeak on the horizon Robin ! Monroe = colonialism - imperialism - fascism.

Got your history all backwards and revised through some kind of woke revisionist cancel algorithm Didy ..

 

Exciting stuff D Zee old arsrapensie .. Compliments of Z - Za - Zoomer !

Them Bradley's don't wander into the grey zone lads .. Stopped sending them close to the front line long ago .. get picked off too easy .. Russia got them drone eye in the sky everywhere -- when see Bradley ... calls in fire .. bye bye Bradley. Best thing Bradley being used for these days is to help evacuate ... Ukraine running backwards at the moment .. had one of its worst days .. 1500 dead in a single day .. Vlad unleashing the Dogs .. some 60 missiles reigning down on infrastructure .. taking out power stations and so forth... still punishing Ukraine for the terrorist attacks tenfold .. twenty fold .. did you see Ukraine managed to take out a tug .. not much of a boat but impressive they managed to get a drone in.

 

Update from Ukraine | Ukraine Takes ground on the South | Heavy battle in Urozhaine


Another Bradley win shown here. Took out a Z tank with a TOW missile.

 

Absolutely no understanding of what an existential threat is.. .. but do tell .. if not the threat of nuclear annihilation . what might constitute an existential threat .. please given an example.

"nuclear capable" is only odd to those who have yet to figure out what an existential threat might constitute. "Threat" being the operative word .. such that Putin doesn't know whether or not the missiles are Nuclear .. so he must assume that they are... and thus constitute a threat .. from the outside.

hard to know sometimes if it is disingenuous oblivion or .. ??!

 

....indeed it must be a very trying time for him and those around him....all this thinking and pondering must tax him somewhat....if only there was solution? Maybe he should think about putting a team together to help him people that are clever and can find things out....hmmmm...I wonder...maybe you could suggest that in your next meeting?

as pooh bear said to himself one day strolling through the woods


.....read the posts again wherein I gave you a brief run through of the concept....

Thanks for your time it's been....sort of oddly interesting....

 

There are not, never have been, nor ever will be any nuclear-tipped missiles in Poland or the Czech Republic, or Ukraine.

 

The Russians know the clock is ticking.
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, May 8, 2024
May 8, 2024 - ISW Press



Russian forces conducted large-scale missile and drone strikes targeting Ukrainian energy infrastructure on the night of May 7 to 8, continuing to exploit Ukraine's degraded air defense umbrella ahead of the arrival of US and Western security assistance at scale.

 

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Holy Carp .. what has sent you into this navel gazing frenzy of irrelevance and deflection -- are you still unable to grasp the idea that a nation pointing nukes at your nation may just be an external threat to your nation. I think even pooh bear could figure that one out quick friend .. Homer and Beavis .. shortly behind ..

The Kremlin don't need to create plan Scotty .. they already beamed one aboard ..and are carrying out that plan .. surely you have heard of it .. No ? Did that one slip past like Klingons around the 7th planet ? Surely by now you must have heard of the Special Military Denazification Operation .. even hiding in the engine room .. how, with help from USA them Neo Nazi's came into power -- started persecuting Ethnic Russians .. in Ukraine .. just like the brown shirts attack the Jew ... soon was civil war. Russia come to the aid of the Separatist freedom fighters .. and annex Crimea .. Lest the evil Nato try to steal the Port .. and that be "Red Line" for beloved Vlad .. Protector of the Motherland 2014 ..

Then came minsk accord -- but Ukraine -Nato-USA did not abide .. instead built big army in ukraine .. kept the Persecution of the Ethnic Russians .. and was about to do a big push into the Donbass when in Feb 2022 .. Vlad initiated the Special Military Operation .. of denazification .. a plan that has worked out quite well for the Motherland .. gaining almost all of the Black Sea and the economic heart of Ukraine .. 70% of the economic activity on the land that Vlad took .. and if the benevolent Hero liberates Odesa .. we are talking 80% of the Ukrainian economy .. The history books will record Vlad as a great Leader of Russia -- Genocide Joe on the other hand LOLOLOL .. forgive me but .. what a disaster...

 

You don't know that .. and neither does Vlad .. which is sad .. as there were not ever any nuclear tipped missiles in Cuba either .. all just a ruse Jacko .. don't believe the hype