Laid off: Newspapers drop office cartoon 'Dilbert' over creator's racial remarks

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that really 'racist' tho, or is it just caucasiophobic (yes I made that up afaik)? I mean, its not like the poll asked if they thought black people were superior. I've spent my whole life with certain people fearing me (I've been told I come across as brooding and intimidating, I don't feel that way, but I do experience other people treating me thusly). Its not so bad.
     
  2. Joe knows

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    There is a lot of truth to what he said. Maybe he knew he would be canceled and didn’t care. But I applaud his openness. I think it needs to be said. We have black teachers segregating kids by race, black teachers making white kids bow to black kids, blacks that hate whites so bad they are forming safe spaces. Sure they’re not all bad but none of the good ones are standing up either. I say whites need to abandon our support for them. I’m not saying go out of our way to make their lives worse, I don’t believe in race based legislation or laws. However I don’t think we need to try and help them either.
     
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    As far as I am concerned I dislike haters and consider all humans a threat.
     
  4. Joe knows

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    Implying it’s not okay to be white most definitely suggests a thought of superiority does it not? Not sure how it doesn’t suggest that.
     
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    Definitely, someone who says that most African Americans are bad, or most Jews are evil is guilty of Hate Speech. Scott Adams is guilty.

    Cancel Culture does cancel many innocent people, but Scott Adams is not one of them.
     
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    Kudos on your word coinage! But-- just as you had pointed out, the poll didn't ask if they thought they were superior to whites-- I'll point out that nor did it ask if they feared whites (though perhaps, since you didn't quote, you had meant your reply to be directed towards the anecdote that Joe Knows had mentioned, about blacks feeling like they sometimes needed a safe space, away from whites).

    I will just add one more thing, that you will hopefully find more useful, than picky. Underlining text, is an alternative to italics. Granted, I use the two, a little bit differently, as I see the underlining, as indicating a greater stress. Still, I believe it developed, back when people had typewriters, with no italics. It therefore meant the same as, "see this as being italicized." Consequently, one should never both underline and italicize, a word-- but don't forget, there's always boldface!
     
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    That is a very presumptive jump, based on incredibly little, when it comes to judging an entire race. Maybe you should hold off coming to a final decision, until the evidence is more compelling?

    I already explained one possibility, that does not include the idea of "superiority." I mean, that you believe, that the obviously limited number of possibilities, that come to your mind, are the only ones, is something that you should be embarrassed to admit. But here is one other possibility, among many:


     
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    agree, it's no different from saying all whites are bad..... one doesn't want to become what they hate

    it's ok to hate people that are racist, but it's not a valid excuse to become racist ones self

    his statement about the poll I can agree with... but then he went here, and that is where he showed his own racism, which was as bad as what he was criticizing

    "And I would say, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I can give to White people is to get the hell away from Black people," he continued, adding, "There is no fixing this … you just have to escape," which he said was why he moved to his current neighborhood that has "a very low Black population."
     
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  10. Joe knows

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    or they’re just like the people I posted in that link. They all dislike white people in that link, all for different reasons, either way they still hate white people
     
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    I don't agree with his take, but I also don't agree with those who saw that as a racist statement. As for the newspapers, let them do as they wish. The number of daily print papers in the US is so low, I am not sure their gesture will be even noticed by anyone who doesn't see it in the news.
     
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    In other words, you are conceding my argument, that you are basing your racist impression of all blacks, on a ridiculously small sampling.

    DEFinning said: ↑
    That is a very presumptive jump, based on incredibly little, when it comes to judging an entire race. Maybe you should hold off coming to a final decision, until the evidence is more compelling?


    Also, you could have simply considered the very first tweet, beneath your linked video, which was a black woman's response:

    Olivia Rondeau
    @rondeaulivia
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    3h
    Replying to
    @Lisaelizabeth
    It actually is heartbreaking to me to see videos like that because it only makes the divide worse. This is nowhere near the majority of black Americans opinions, the media knows what they’re doing. They want us to hate each other.
    <End>


    In summation, it comes across loud and clear, that your verdict on this question, is exactly what you want to be able to conclude.
     
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    You're surprised?

    Perhaps you should watch the MSM that caters to people who vote the way you do.

    The monster the left has created is coming for you too.
     
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    I refuse to treat people as anything other than individuals, but I also understand statistics.

    I, for one, won't be party to being like those I hate, therefore I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt despite immutable characteristics like race/skin color.

    Some of the best people I've ever met had a skin color that was different than mine, and I'm not going to partake in hatred along racial lines.
     
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    It's amazing watching you try to defend this.
     
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    Funny, that you would think that anyone would know what you mean by that, without any explanation from you.

    What would really be amazing, though, would be seeing you make an actual argument, in this debate thread. I don't expect it, though.
     
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    Once in a great while you make a valid point.
    I love Dilbert, I read it daily and I think it's brilliant. But I am sure the strip has other eyes on it before publication, not so a podcast. He is attempting to entertain, but I think he has trouble "reading the room". He may think he is being edgy or provocative but he's just being racist, with statements like white people should avoid blacks. Most people have trouble supporting a racist and he is finding out the "room" is not laughing.
     
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    Oh I don't doubt you can't see it yourself.

    Other people can read what you're writing though.

    Don't let me interrupt, please continue explaining why it's fine.

    I already mentioned a couple of great points. You're welcome to address them if you'd like a follow-up.
     
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    Don't suppose you'd like to address the large percentage of black people that don't think it's ok to be white.

    It's a good thing they didn't ask if it's ok to be asian. That would have been a train wreck.
     
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    Sure, I can not say what goes through an African American’s mind when confronted with the question "Is it okay to be white?”, but a lot of white people seem to know. It’s hate. Well, it is not so clear to me. On the negative side it could be anything from “I wouldn’t want to be white” to “I hate white people”. I think it would take a few more questions on Rasmussen’s part to get to the bottom of it. But hey, let's just jump to conclusions and confirm our bias.
     
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    Yes I'm sure if the question was "it's ok to be black" with the same percentages you'd approach it with the same rigorous investigation.
     
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    Why wouldn't you think that? I may answer that no, because I wouldn't want to be a Black person.
     
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    Well that's revealing.
     
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    He was attempting to be edgy, but being edgy around racial issues seems to be a perennial losing issue. His logic train of black people dislike white people therefore black people are a hate group therefore white people stay away from a hate group ie white people stay away from black people, doesn't seem to really go anywhere.

    Now of course I await the eventual National Review article, "The Conservative Case for Canceling Dilbert."
     
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    Weird, I would answer that yes. I believe it’s okay to be any race. That doesn’t mean I support black collective agendas.
     

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