Laid off: Newspapers drop office cartoon 'Dilbert' over creator's racial remarks

Just point me to these "great points," of yours, as I must have missed them. Quoting them, would be easiest, but if they were especially drawn out discourses, you could link your post(s), and describe what point of yours, you feel is the great one. As this thread is still very short, simply giving me the appropriate post # and, if it includes more than a single idea, referring me to the correct part of that post, will suffice.

Also, as I assume that your arguments apply to the story at the center of this thread, and not to my own "defending this"-- by which you'd meant, not Adams' comments, but the interpretation of them, as sounding racist-- I will invite you, once more, to explain what you find so "amazing," about my argument, if you can.

 

How so? Would you want to be Black rather than whatever you are? BTW you've not rendered your opinion on Adam's statements, just questioned others.

And give up all that privilege? An admitted racist is okay with being Black? Will wonders never seize?

 

I'm sure you realize that, were a poll sent to white respondents, asking if they would want to be black, we would see a resounding "no," dwarfing the 26% of blacks, who'd said it is "not OK," to be white. In all honesty, I would certainly be among those whites, answering no. But my reason, for not wanting to be black, would be because of the obvious discrimination, I would know, as a black man, would be directed against me. It is my guess, is that this is how most of those, in Rasmussen's poll, were thinking about the question: that whites are the ones whose system discriminates against them; so their answering that they did not see it as "OK, to be white" may have been more about seeing whites as those who are in power, enforcing that system (or at least, those who benefit from it; and those not tearing it down). It would be a little bit like a poll, asking Russians, is it OK to be an oligarch?

 

Also very revealing.

 

Oh I quite specifically rendered my opinion. Perhaps you missed it.

It's interesting that people that love to talk about racism in this thread are so oblivious to it.

 

You'd like me to spoon feed you in a thread you described yourself as "still very short"?

 

I missed it because you never stated it. Why the evasion? I answered you questions honestly. I asked you three and you evidently have nothing. Maybe there is nothing there.

 

I just don't feel like repeating myself in a 3 page thread.

 

You are not repeating yourself because you never specifically addressed Adam's statements. Why the continued evasion?

 

"Revealing" of what, only you know (or think that you do, anyway).

I could add, that your own reluctance to express your thoughts in a clear & straightforward manner, could certainly be taken to be very revealing, about your own self.

 

I see that I will have to spoonfeed you, what most would find to have been implied: what you view as your own "great ideas," I do not recognize as such. Therefore, the only way I can know which of your own thoughts you refer to, is for you to identify them-- unless, of course, you had parenthetically written, "great idea," each time, following one of these brilliant thoughts, which you now tout (albeit without repeating, or citing them)?

 

Just thought this was funny...

 

You don't understand telling the truth is hateful we want sweet sweet lies.

 

Being white and being alive it's racist to these people I'm not even sure the latter is a qualifier.

Our society would be much better off if we just gave the middle finger to these type of people instead of abdicating. That just makes it worse. So what you do is is this cartoonist comes out of something buy it. If it's something you can afford show these people that you won't abdicate

 

It seems Mr. vman 12 has left the building, maybe he realized snark pales to substance, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

It appears you're no better than the 50% of blacks.
Would you vote for a woman?

 

I think he meant we should stop voting for candidates because they are black.

 

The post of yours, Vman12, which looks closest to an argument, is this one:

This argument, is that the reason that blacks are either not sure if it's all right, or feel that it's not OK, being a white person, is because that is what our news media tells them. This is a dubious stretch-- so blacks would have no idea, they were being profiled by police, if they didn't hear it on the news? I think that "great point" of yours, is patently false. However, I will build off of it. If this is where blacks got this idea, from the news media, then what are you suggesting could be the remedy-- censorship?

On the contrary, granting your idea, for the sake of argument, I would say that the problem would then have to be seen as:
1) News stories are fairly short, and tend to be focused on single events, not hundreds of years of history. So, in the quick version, on the news, there is little historical context, and no opportunity for group discussion, to suss out all the roots of racism, the ideas & causes, which have led to the current state of affairs, including those attempts made to rectify things.
2) This understanding of both our past and our present, must be a mutual understanding, between people of different races, and something which we have an opportunity for discussing between ourselves, to gain insight into the perspective of others, and have a sense of the view, out of the eyes of the other race.

IOW, if your argument is correct, the best way to address it, would be better understanding, and communication, among races. And the way to achieve this, would require, as a major part, the teaching of the history of American racism, in schools. To speak in the inexact language that those on the Right, typically use, to refer to this: your argument about not letting the Media control the narrative, so requiring our populace to have a much fuller base of understanding, of our history, implies an advocacy for a greater incorporation of the principles of CRT!

 

You can't force ppl to like you

 

Yeah sure because when a bunch of all black police officers with a black police chief a black mayor and pretty much everyone else in office is black kills a black man it's white supremacy.

 

That reply, I don't see as having much to do with my post. I get your "great" argument: that society is teaching that it is not OK, to be white. I don't know if that is really the case but, regardless, I don't think blacks needed anyone to tell them, they are subject to racism, and are being repressed. If it were so, that they only think this way because of the modern, "woke" media, how do you explain the Nation of Islam, MLK, and the Civil Rights movement?

But if you want to lessen the ability of the media to drive the narrative, of news to convey the impression of antagonism, between the races, as it often can-- then we should, as a nation, understand racism as a struggle, in which we all strive to beat it, by working together. This would require a greater understanding of the history of racism, not its hiding away, to go without mention. If you see the attitude expressed in the Rasmussen poll results, as a bad thing, as a problem to be fixed, then the prescription for that, is to rally the races in a COOPERATIVE effort, to reduce racism; this would require changing the mentality of the many whites who see minorities, primarily as COMPETITION, in a zero-sum game.

 

Speaking from personal experience, I would imagine?

 

I said I won’t vote for them or support their foundations. They can be black or whatever color and that’s fine but they need to walk on their own two feet. Done with their lousy excuses.

 

Start another thread about that if you want that discussion

 

His point is valid. In primarily black demographics they are much more racist. It doesn’t even have to be primarily black. It just has to be primarily everyone else. Look at what Las Angeles is doing in the name of right wing extremism and equity.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/la-mayor...mist-police-signals-lowering-bar-new-recruits

All the highlighted areas leaves me to believe this woman is targeting whites. The police obviously think more extremist groups should be targeted other than just right wing extremist but they’re not, she also wants to make it easier for ethnic groups to pass training. This is nothing but an anti white move. And displays exactly what @vman12 is concerned about.