Let the evidence speak: DID VACCINES SAVE US?

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  1. joyce martino

    joyce martino Well-Known Member

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    But this MRNA is not the "normal" vaccines we have had all our lives. This MRNA does NOT prevent the virus stuff. People will say, "well it helps keep the virus less"....bullroar I say. This is technology is not like anything we've had in our lives.

    I've had one smallpox vaccine at age 5 and and don't have to go back for booster after booster..

    Same with the measle vaccine, no repeats for this one either..

    This MRNA was put together for motives that are not known, but a lot of speculation out there.

    And I have questioned Everything the CDC has thrown at the public.
     
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    same as any other vaccine, the human immune system decides if it can fight it off fast enough not to spread, just like the flu vaccine
     
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    It's nothing mysterious though. mRNA is what your cells read to make proteins. In viral illness, we routinely have ribosomes hijacked with viral mRNA to make viral proteins. The main difference with the vaccine is it doesn't make a functional virus that goes on to destroy cells.

    It's not the technology that's odd here, it's the virus. You might note that the flu vaccine has been around for awhile, but we get a new one each year. You might notice that there aren't vaccines for the common cold despite the fact that plenty of people would rather not get sick again. Some viruses are more adaptable and varied than others.
     
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    The Virus??? Like a hyped up cold....MOST who were really sick and died had comorbidities.
     
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    Why would Trump finance a fake vaccine?
     
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    ~ It's both. mRNA has never been used/tested as a vaccine before Covid-19. Even the original scientists who developed it are unsure the effectiveness and potential side-effects. The manipulated virus is a mystery that will likely not be solved — because China was allowed to destroy all evidence/research samples at Wuhan laboratory.

    :neutral: Use and trust at your own risk ... :omfg:'
     
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    Robert Malone MD the developer of the MRNA technology has been outspoken on the efficiency/efficiacy of this MRNA...

    Again MOST that died early on had major health issues. Now all the deaths are being talked about from the spike proteins from others. I'm not around vaxxed people thank goodness.
     
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    Welcome to the forum.

    All the facts show that the shots were indeed bioweapons meant to kill and maim.

    All the data being slowly released by Pfizer over the last several months show that once again, Pfizer committed massive fraud in bringing these to market, and the FDA knew it. Pfizer pleaded guilty to criminal medical fraud in 2004 and 2009. This latest shows that Pfizer has been operating a continuing criminal enterprise for decades at least.
     
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    ~ The scary part is : A } The continued dumbing-down of society ; B } The potential side-effects of this experiment that have not yet surfaced .

    Let us pray ... :pray:'
     
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    One wonders if the large number of vacinations and various adjuvents have anything to do with the large spike in autoimmune diseases. I have posted links to papers on this subject on PF before during the covid vaccination hyrteria and was blasted for doing so by a few of the resident libs. I don't have any firm thoughts on the matter.
     
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    When are the spike proteins supposed to start turning our internal organs to soup?
     
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    All I can say is my wife and I got two shots each plus the booster and we are doing fine. Are we outliers or are we pressing statistics to tell us what we want to hear.
     
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    ~ Something you are unlikely to hear discussed on mainstream media "News" ...

    SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – Several US life insurance companies have recently revealed an overwhelming unexplained increase (40%) in “all-cause deaths” amongst 18 to 49-year-olds.
     
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    The side effects have surfaced. A tiny fraction of them have been recorded in VAERS and similar systems.

    The problem is that the state run media suppresses that knowledge, and many humans are in denial about it, manifesting that ignorance is bliss.
     
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    Strokes and heart attacks does not mean internal organs have been turned to soup, though one of my friends who died from the shots last year did die from massive organ failure. Each individual reacts differently, and apparently in this experiment different batches of the drugs have different characteristics.
     
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    Your friend died FROM the shot?

    Has their been an increase in strokes and heart attacks among the vaccinated, or have some of us just started paying attention more to every stroke or heart attack that happens?
     
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    After taking it he was hospitalized that day, then released. A month or two later he was hospitalized again, and in 10 days he was dead from organ failure. Like 3 other friends who died after taking it, the shot caused problems that eventually killed him.
     
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    his Dr. said that the shot was the cause of his problems?

    And you had 4 friends die from it? that is really anomalous.
     
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    I think that the Covid vaccine is different because:
    (1) The Covid vaccine is an experimental vaccine.
    (2) Since the Covid vaccine takes approximately 6 months to manufacture and get into arms, one is getting the vaccine for a strain of Covid that has burned itself out and isn't affective for the current strain of Covid.
    (3) Each time one is vaccinated, the immune system is changed permanently (it's a spike protein), so herd immunity will never be achieved with multiple boosters since the natural immune system is never allowed to cope with Covid and all its strains.
     
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    I have 12 friends and acquaintances that died from it, and several with pacemakers installed afterwards. And ALL the people I know who took it ended up with chronic cold conditions coming and going for months.
     
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    Man that is terrible luck.

    No one i know or work with had any issues other than low fever and feeling tired a day or two after. Most of us got 3 shots, a few even have had 4.
     
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    I just ran into an old friend of mine 2 days ago, a US Army pilot in Vietnam. Had not seen him in years. He has taken all the shots like a good boy. He collapsed 2 weeks ago, spent a few days in the hospital, but looked fine when I saw him. He will be having a pacemaker installed soon to compensate for his new cardiac issue, just like another shot recipient friend of mine.

    The shots are bioweapons, brought under fraud by GAVI and a host of Pharma crooks. Some folks will never be able to understand that. Ignorance is bliss.
     
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    Yea like i said, no one I know had any issues. I have no reason to accept your claim that the shots are bioweapons. I think that is complete nonsense, and people making that claim never have anything to back it up.

    Older people often have health issues. I would be interested if any of their doctors said that their issues were directly related to the vaccine.

    I do not believe that you know 12 people who have died because of the vaccine.
     
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    Yes, I'm sure you don't believe that. That's how cognitive dissonance works.
     
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